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Bud Selig’s blue-ribbon panel met with officials in San Jose and then Oakland this past week to discuss the possibility of a new A’s stadium in the Oakland area, according to the Phillip Matier and Andrew Ross of the San Francisco Chronicle.
Yes, Selig (or at least the Blue Ribboners) actually did something. The timing was interesting, to say the least.
Ironically, the San Jose visit came just as state Controller John Chiang dispatched a team of auditors to determine, among other things, if the San Jose Redevelopment Agency properly spent $25 million last year to assemble an A’s ballpark site after Gov. Jerry Brown had ordered such agencies disbanded.
If auditors determine there was any wrongdoing, San Jose could be ordered to sell off the ballpark property to the highest bidder – which would be a real curveball to any A’s move.
Add the ongoing territorial battle with the San Francisco Giants, and San Jose is looking less and less like a possible home for the A’s. Nonetheless, Wolff has said he has no interest in moving the team out of the Bay Area. Which brings us to the meeting in Oakland…
Those in attendance included Oakland Mayor Jean Quan, City Administrator Deanna Santana, City Council President Larry Reid, Alameda County Board of Supervisors President Nate Miley, County Administrator Susan Muranishi, plus a delegation of high-profile ballpark boosters led by Clorox CEO Don Knauss and developer Mike Guilmetti.
For months, Quan and company have been publicly touting the idea of building the new ballpark next to the Oakland Coliseum as part of a huge sports, housing and retail complex.
But this meeting focused on a waterfront ballpark – most likely at Howard Terminal at the Port of Oakland.
The idea would be for the cash-strapped port to sell the land for a badly needed $40 million – a move Quan might now be able to swing after her recent appointments to the Port Commission.
Although not stated at the meeting, the message was that – contrary to what A’s managing partner Lew Wolff says – the town does have a viable plan and site, and if he is not interested in staying, then the team should be sold to someone who is.
Howard Terminal, from Port of Oakland website.
Oakland hitting the panic button
The meetings were timed well with the investigation into the San Jose land, so this is a perfect opportunity for those who wish to keep the team in Oakland to make something happen.
In Wolff’s 2010 letter to the fans, he stated that “We believe we have exhausted the venue options suggested in Oakland and several other Oakland options we explored on our own.” That may have been true two years ago, but with San Jose presenting issues of its own for Wolff, Oakland may be his only option is he wants to keep the team in Oakland.
A waterfront park in Oakland has potential, but perhaps not as much as a ballpark in the heart of downtown San Jose. San Jose offers established entertainment and dining, whereas a Port of Oakland venue would have to be the catalyst for the area around it.
The fact that the committee is actually out doing work is encouraging, but it’s still been three years since the committee was formed and much hasn’t happened other than a silent dog fight between the Giants and A’s over territory rights.














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They have a statue of him in Milwaukee; the pose should either be standing up with his hands in his pocket (like he did when Bonds tied the record-neither cheering or booing) or the look of esasperation on his face when he realized the All-Star Game esd going to be a tie. Show his cluelessness and ineffectuality. As much as I dislike chippy David Stern, "Used Car" Bud, the puppet of the owners is the worst commish.
A statue is probably overkill for Bud; it'd be more appropriate to have some kind of motionless manequin, or maybe just a 2-dimensional cardboard cutout. Maybe some kind of marionette with tangled (or cut?) strings, to continue with the puppet motif. The important part, whatever caricature is used, is to make it look unproductive and indecisive and. most important: completely inactive unless the owners tell it to do something.
I dunno what's going to happen with the A's and SJ or Oakland (or LA or Vegas or ...). But I do know one thing: that picture of Bud is priceless.
Or they can move to L.A. since there is no reported territorial rights down there. The market is massive and 3 teams can definitely share the wealth. The Los Angeles A's of Long Beach
I might have to disagree BB..it doesn't look so bad(to me)..and Daly Citys huge Filipino population are the wealthiest people per capita-more then whites- in the state. That's a fact,they passed Japanese and Chinese Americans...At least it something to start with. Losing Lin..what a huge.huge gaffe by Larry. Losing his job made him get off easy...an all time bonehead mistake.
Otis I am born and raised two blocks off Geneva near cow palace...trust me there is no reason for anyone to build anything in that area...it is cornered by Daly City and the projects, it is an undesirable plot of land with no nightlife over than drug dealers and drug users..As much as I embrace the nostalgia of the once nice cow palace the current neighborhood is filth, and I still live here...
I agree Butcherboy. With the way things look like there now, why would someone want to build there? They are planning to redevelop the Visitacion Valley area near where Schledge Lock used to be, and where Caltrains is. They've tried to revitalize the area with a Muni (the T-Third) train going through there on Bayshore Ave. I saw a drawing of how the area is supposed to look like, and it's supposed to be nice around this area. I live in the "Little Hollywood" neighborhood, which is also near the Cow Palace, but it's closer to Candlestick. It's on the way to Candlestick. I can walk to Candlestick and the Cow Palace from where I live. But yes, I was just saying, with the planned redevelopment there, and if this new development helps revitalize the area, why not have a Warriors new arena there? On the surface, it sounds like it would be a good idea, but without the downtown attractions, and as you alluted to, with the drug dealers and drug users there, the Warriors probably would be hesitant to build an arena there, even though it would bring a new economy to this area, and possibly drive out the drug dealers and drug users. But yeah, the Warriors probably wouldn't build an arena where the Cow Palace is because of the drug dealers and drug users. When you ride the bus through there, you always see drunkards and drug dealers at the corner stores near the Cow Palace and the Sunnydale projects. It's pretty much the same people everyday. But yeah, this seems like it would be a good idea, because of the planned redevelopment in this area, but it sadly might not be possible because of the drug dealers and drug users. I was just throwing out the idea, even though it won't happen.
I know this might be a weird idea and I know this has nothing to do with the A's, but, since me and Stan were talking about the Warriors, but for the Warriors, why not build their San Francisco where the Cow Palace currently stands. Yeah, the Cow Palace isn't state of the art and the Cow Palace is sadly going to be torn down for more expensive housing, which would be a shame but, with all the redevelopment that is going to happen in the Visitacion Valley area, if the Cow Palace was refurbished and/or torn down, and the Warriors build their new arena where the Cow Palace currently stands, business would be booming in that area! I live near there. Plus, it would be somewhat easier to get to the new Cow Palace if one was to be built, with Muni access that goes near there, and there is already a parking lot there. I understand why the Warriors want to be in downtown San Francisco, and I don't blame them, but if the Piers 30/32 arena deal doesn't happen because of the hurdles/road blocks that's going with it, and they can't work out a deal with the Giants to build an arena next to AT&T Park, and they reconsider and decide to build somewhere else in the city, why not look into refurbishing the Cow Palace or tearing down the Cow Palace and building the new arena there, with the redevelopment that is going to be happening in the Visitacion Valley area? Maybe convince Leland Yee and others who want to turn where the Cow Palace is now, into more expensive housing, to put those expensive houses elsewhere in the city. We already have enough expensive housing in the city. We don't need more. As far as the A's go, yeah, them getting a stadium in San Jose would seem more likely or they would be closer to getting a stadium deal done in San Jose than the Warriors getting an arena deal done here in San Francisco. They would have less hurdles/road blocks, since San Jose would probably love to have the A's, and the A's already want to be there. All they need is MLB approval and the Giants handing over the territorial rights, which might make this impossible. The Warriors will get their arena here in San Francisco hopefully. The A's moving to San Jose could still happen, but for right now, it seems unlikely. We'll see.
I really hope this happens. Oakland and the entire East Bay need good stuff like this to happen. The tradition of Oakland baseball is something all in the East Bay, even the Bay Area, can be proud of and should be preserved. A new waterfront ballpark in the Town will do wonders and create a whole new dynamic that SF is currently experiencing. Now if only Wolff will sell or get smart.
On Friday, I went to an A's game for the first time in a few years. If Cook doesn't blow the save, I might get to see the fireworks. Instead, have to leave after the 10th inning as I'm with friends and some kids who were tired. I was impressed with the number of fans and how many people were in their A's garb. As for me, I was wearing a Giants long sleeve + Warriors cap. :D The current stadium's PA and scoreboards are woefully outdated but I felt like the stadium setup was quite good. Unlike AT&T, it didn't feel as crowded waiting for food and bathroom. Now, there were about 30,000 fans vs 40,000 at AT&T so that makes a bit of a difference. It's a shame Oakland (the city) can't quite get it together for the A's. I watched the A's a lot in the old days though not as much lately.
>>>The meetings were timed well with the investigation into the San Jose land the land costs nothing. Come on. Lew and Fisher can buy the land themselves if needed. So what the idiot Comtroller wanted to investigate or stop the land sale.
Selig and MLB are just covering their azz in case SJ sues. There was an AT lawyer at the meeting with SJ. Selig knows the second he rejects the move , SJ will sue him and MLB. It is not strictly an antitrust suit. I am hoping for a big lawsuit and am hoping that Selig will be called to testify on records.
Beane's smarts +new owner that doesn't alienate fan base+MLB-approved high visibility site in Oaktown+possibly only team in Oakland proper in 5 years=winner winner chicken dinner!
I truly hope this happens in Oakland, i am a die hard Giants fan, that has season tix to the Niners and native SF boy and no true ties to Oakland. I just feel the As ARE Oakland and these fans and the city deserve a world class waterfront stadium. I hope bud does the right thing and pushes the OAK site and if lew don't like it then sell to someone who is interested in OAKLAND. Can you imagine this years team in a swanky new park on the water with a tad more revenue flowing thru it? The fans deserve it, good luck Oakland I am rooting for ya from across the water...
I agree with you Butcherboy. I'm a San Francisco guy as well, and I'm also a big Giants, Niners, and Warriors fan as well, but I agree, the A's and A's fans deserve a new stadium in Oakland. Yeah, San Jose would be appealing for the A's, and they want that South Bay money and revenue and all that but, where would that leave Oakland? The A's are turning their backs to Oakland in all this. I agree with Marty Lurie that the A's got to stop worrying about San Jose and basically embrace Oakland. Chris Townsend today said that the A's aren't leaving the Coliseum soon, because of how long it would take to get things running, and all the road blocks you have to go through, to get a new stadium, which are basically the same road blocks/hurdles that Damon was talking about regarding the Warriors new San Francisco arena. But yeah, the A's should embrace Oakland, especially if they do end up staying at the Coliseum longer than expected, should things take a while for them to get a new stadium in San Jose. As far as the A's playing in San Jose goes, I don't think it would be the same if the A's played in San Jose. I mean even saying "San Jose A's" sounds weird. LOL. Also, the Giants and A's rivalry wouldn't really be the same in San Jose, even though the territorial rights issue would probably add a new dimension to it and keep the Giants-A's rivalry alive, if the A's were to move to San Jose, but overall, I don't think it would be the same with the A's playing there, just because there are a lot of Giants fans in San Jose, and would those fans suddenly become A's fans? But yeah, I agree. The A's need a new stadium in Oakland. A new stadium would revive at least part of the city of Oakland, if not the whole city of Oakland in general. Also, maybe an A's new stadium in Oakland could somewhat entice the Raiders to stay in Oakland. The Warriors are moving back here to San Francisco, which I don't mind, but yes, the A's having a new ballpark would mean so much to the city of Oakland and to the A's. I'm not sure if the A's would pack a new Oakland ballpark with 40,000 fans every game like AT&T does, but the A's should at least get a good 25-30,000 fans when they play teams like the Mariners and the BlueJays. Basically, the games where they get 5,10, maybe 15,000 fans now, they would probably get 25-30,000 in a new Oakland ballpark. I'm sure they would sellout against teams like the Angels and the Rangers, and of course they would sellout against the Giants, Yankees, and Red Sox as well.
The city of Oakland turned their backs on the A's, when they ruined what used to be a great baseball park so they Raiders will move back. Regardless the A's need a new ballpark. After Fenway and Wrigley Its the oldest one left and very outdated. I don't care if its in San Jose, Oakland, Fremont or anywhere in between.
Believe me Otis,the A's are closer to San Jose fantasy's then Lacob at building a behemoth stadium on San Francisco Bay. I know the save the bay and environmental protections,local and federal, will be impossible to get done in less then 20 years. And then be denied!
*economy.... My bad. I meant to put economy instead of accomplishments. LOL
Yeah, sadly that might be true. Damon Bruce pointed out all the hurdles/road blocks the Warriors would go through in order for the Warriors to build their new San Francisco arena, and when you really think about it, it can make your head spin. LOL. Well, not literally of course, but hopefully this won't be a huge headache for the Warriors. They just want to build an arena in the city man. It's like, why does so much have to happen, for something that's going to be great? A San Francisco arena would contribute greatly to the economy here in San Francisco, especially in downtown San Francisco when the Giants aren't playing in the winter, and early spring. Plus, we need a state of the art arena here the city. The Moscone Center is for conventions. I heard that was supposed to be the Warriors San Francisco arena back in the day, but basically the politicians didn't want it to be used for basketball. Unbelievable. It sucks there will be a lot of hurdles/road blocks for the Warriors to build an arena here in San Francisco. These same darn hurdles/road blocks might be/are the reasons why the 49ers will be moving to Santa Clara. It just doesn't make any sense. These sporting venues can bring so much business and revenue to the city, and help contribute to this city's accomplishments. How can politicians/organizations be against this? I mean, yeah, it's kind of understandable, but c'mon. This is San Francisco! How do we not have a state of the art basketball arena and a state of the art NFL stadium here, alongside AT&T Park?.... At least we have AT&T Park! If the Warriors can build the new San Francisco arena by 2017, that would be great, but with what Damon Bruce has said, and with the hurdles/road blocks that you hear about, 2017 probably might seem like an ambitious target date. Plus, it's 5 yrs. from now. At least Oracle is a nice place to watch basketball, so if the Warriors ended up staying at Oracle for a few more seasons after 2017, that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, but the Warriors FO would look bad though, especially after that huge press conference at Piers 30/32 and everything, a few months ago.
Right on Butcherboy, I felt the same way when the Giants were going to move to Florida. As a-long time A's fan I was still happy when the Giants made there deal to stay In S.F. where they belong. As far as this latest news, I really hope something comes out of it.
Classy post. This Oakland guy appreciates it.
I didn't go to Harvard,and nobody made a phony baloney movie about me..but I knew the A's are not going anyplace when the alluded too dopes didn't. And I posted as much. Its simple. If Wolf and Fisher continue to post a discredited theory,-they cant compete in Oakland, then SELL THE TEAM. As we saw in Cleveland..plenty of ultra wealthy who will buy the A's AND build a new Oakland stadium. The bay area doesn't need Beane,Wolff and John Fisher. They need us...or get the hell out of the business.