One of our loyal commenters, coredump, asked a pretty good question in response to our “A sad fate for The Stick” tour de force (kidding).
This is one of those questions that’s so much easier to answer when you’re a kid, sort of like when someone asks “What do you want for Christmas/Hanukkah?” When you’re a kid, the only problem with answering that question is your answer might be so long that whoever’s listening tunes out after the 10th gift idea.
When I was a kid, the Candlestick Point answer would’ve been a slam-dunk: AMUSEMENT PARK. Otherwise known as kid heaven. Roller coasters, food your parents would never let you eat in any other setting, and the opportunity to stare at girls/guys you thought were cute while spending all that time in line.
I guess this is my way of saying I don’t really have a great idea of what to build at Candlestick Point once The Stick becomes rubble. It seems like a shame to have an Abercrombie and Fitch where “The Catch” took place, but it’s not like I’d visit a statue commemorating that moment more than one or two times.
I grew up in a small town in Northern California. We’re talking WAY north — Eureka. So it’s hard for me to look at San Francisco and say, “This place really needs THIS.” San Francisco was my cultural mecca growing up. It taught me life can be vibrant and not everyone wears flannels and sweats out in public. I’m pretty cool with San Francisco, and besides the parking, cost and Tenderloin problems, I don’t really have any qualms with my adopted hometown.
On the other hand, I know that high-end retail shops haven’t done all that well in places like Walnut Creek (I used to work retail there in a former life, and half the stores went out of business while I toiled there). So why would people go out of their way to travel to Candlestick Point for some outdoor mall?
Again, I’m full of complaints but short on answers. But I feel like there’s something we’re missing. I’m a lot better at coming up with ideas for articles and blog posts than figuring out how to reconfigure a space or develop unused land.
Amici’s Contest Question (thanks again, coredump)
If you had total control of San Francisco, what would you want built at Candlestick Point?
My idea of “lots and lots of billiard halls and bowling alleys” probably isn’t feasible, and the more affordable rental housing the better, but I’m sure you all will have smarter and more creative ideas than mine. Submit a good idea and you could win a free large pizza from Amici’s East Coast Pizzeria …
I kinda like the Raiders idea. Why does anyone stay in Oakland, anyway?
More practically, sink it and let it join the bay.
Make it a park something non commerical but fat chance that would happen these days since $$ rule the city.
I know it's totally impractical but how about building a new 49ers training facility there. Nice sense of symmetry with Santa Clara
The Raiders idea is interesting, but I'm not sure if that would go over well, with the whole San Francisco-Oakland rivalry, even though I heard the Raiders played at Candlestick in 1960 before they played in Oakland.
Also, what would happens if you have some of those fans who are mad about the 49ers moving to Santa Clara, that they would become Raider fans if the Raiders moved to San Francisco but stayed the Oakland Raiders? I'm sure the Raiders would take advantage of that if they ever considered moving to San Francisco
The idea about building a Giants AAA stadium would be good too though.They would probably have to change the name though. Maybe "Bay Area Grizzlies" or "San Francisco Bay Grizzlies" or something like that. Probably a name that would draw Bay Area sports fans, who want to see future Giants and/or are into minor league baseball. This would also be a good idea too because part of the Giants history would stay at Candlestick, even though it would be the Giants minor league team playing there, but they could be a part of the Giants future history if they stay with the Giants organization. I'd work that angle if I was the Giants, if the Giants had the opportunity to build a minor league stadium there.
This idea would also work because say if a Giants player is on the DL and has a rehab stint. He wouldn't have to worry about going all the way to Fresno to play some rehab games, and then have to travel all the back to the city to rejoin the Giants. He can stay in the city, play a rehab game or two, and then rejoin the Giants that same day, should the Giants be in town at the same time.
I think either way, we can all agree that they need to build another sports facility there. I mean, do we really want to see Candlestick gone for more condos that most of us, if not all of us, will not be able to afford to live in?
How about a Bay Area sports museum? (Please don't pick me for the winner.)
Though the Warriors going there sounds like a good idea too...
A new multi-purpose stadium for the aaa giants team. Hotels and restaraunts for the full experience of the games.
On a side note, BASG, I didn't know you are from Eureka. I thought you were from the City the whole time
I agree with the Warriors arena idea. I would seriously try to build a new Warriors arena at where Candlestick currently stands, and try to improve development there. I don't know if I would build a mall around the arena, but at least some businesses and maybe some affordable housing here in San Francisco, even though that's sadly unhead of.
I'm not totally saying that Piers 30/32 is a pipe dream, but it looks more and more like the Warriors won't be playing there in 2017, and I'm guessing the Warriors aren't going to partner with the Giants and build a new arena near AT&T Park. This would be a great Plan B or Plan C since their partnership with the Giants on building an arena near AT&T Park, hasn't happened. Why not consider building a new arena there? Yes, it's not in the greatest of areas, but you can have somewhat of a new community there, kind of like how AT&T Park has brought a new community to the Mission Bay area.
Besides the outdoor mall part, the current plan works for me. While it may not be the opportune location for housing, the city is in need of more of it. If they limit it to just a small shopping center (with a supermarket and some restaurants) so that the area could be somewhat self-sustaining then it should be ok.
Though i agree there should be some statues or at least a plaque or something that mentions some of the historical events that happened during the Candlestick days.
you are all WRONG! the space will be turned into a biometrically gated community for Google/Facebook millionaires called Google Gulch.
A graveyard of all the 49er greats - even if they haven't died yet! Just round 'em all up. Come with me Joe...
Regardless of what happens, lets keep that nudity ban in place.
I would go either 1) new arena for the warriors or 2) tear down the cow palace & rebuild at candlestick.
Well obviously there won't be a stadium or arena of any kind...
So a statue of Will Clark leaping for thee catch would suffice in my mind
theres only so many things as valuable as real estate in SF, that place is going to be covered in condo's in no time
New football stadium plus ferry stop - FOR THE RAIDERS!
They can keep the Oakland name. They would still be closer to Oakland than Levi's Stadium is to San Francisco.
@JohnWShreve LOL. Oh man.... Let's not offend anyone on here who is from the East Bay.
As far as the Raiders idea, yeah, it actually would make sense for them to play at Candlestick if they can't get a stadium built in Oakland or a place like Concord (the Raiders were/are apparently looking to put their new stadium there).
If that was to happen, I just hope that 49er fans don't turn into Raider fans, even though the Raiders moving to Candlestick would in a sense make the 49ers look bad for moving to Santa Clara.
@Perotti28 DWIGHT Clark
@Sports Girl Liz Considering what dumps the Civic Center and the Cow Palace are, it would be cool for them to build a new arena there. Traffic would still be messy, but we're only talking around 20,000 fans vs. 65K.
@AJ_Strong Agreed but heard there's something about those places having "protected landmarks" that would make that difficult. It's really too bad.