I’ve heard from multiple sources that Damon Bruce posted a tweet early Sunday morning which said something to the effect of how the San Francisco Giants beat writers are bought and paid for by ownership and how, as a result, the national writers think this market is a joke. He soon deleted that tweet, but afterward wrote this:
I listened to Bruce’s show today, and a conversation with Anthony Witrado of The Sporting News included this exchange (about five minutes in), after Witrado mentioned how he started writing a column about Ryan Vogelsong in the 2nd inning of Game 6. They talked about how the local media has barely touched the “disconnect” between Tim Lincecum and Buster Posey, how Andrew Baggarly handled the Melky Cabrera PED story and subsequent apology, as well as the “small town” vibe around here (emphasis mine).
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Bruce: Did you mention the word “enchilada” in the column?
Witrado: Hell no.
Bruce: See now, this is where I love you. And I love the conversation, and we’ll amend it from maybe the conversation we had over tequila on Saturday night, to maybe a little bit more palatable on air, nicer friendlier conversation. But national writers don’t have the same obligations let’s say local beat writers do. So much of the story out here has been all the rally hashtags. Watching fans use social media to really kind of mobilize their own town hall and cheer for the team together, it’s almost unprecedented the way the Giants have gone about mobilizing that, and we’ll talk more about that a little more going on today. Social media obviously isn’t impacting the final score of anything, but it’s a forum for fans to connect and whatnot. When it comes to covering this team, asking (chuckles) do you think…
Witrado: Just ask it.
Bruce: Why hasn’t anyone who covers this team locally been able to get to the bottom of the disconnect with Posey and Lincecum? This would not be a ‘we’ll ask no questions, you provide no answers’ type of situation in New York…
Witrado: Right.
Bruce: Philadelphia, Boston or Chicago, or just about anywhere. I don’t think this would go on in L.A., necessarily. I … look at it this way, I think, I find more objection reading about the Giants from a national perspective than local perspective sometimes.
Witrado: I think that’s fair to say. I think outside of a town like New York or Philadelphia, I think that’s usually the case. Like you said, we don’t have those obligations to keep an everyday relationship with certain people. And so, you know, if we see something that doesn’t smell right or we smell something that is no good, we can write it. I’ve been a beat writer for several years and they have some really good ones in the Bay Area, including the guy you just had on, Alex (Pavlovic). And I think that walking that line is incredibly more difficult than I think the general public knows.
Bruce: It is a hard thing to do.
Witrado: And being that the two faces of this franchise, and them … let’s just put it out there, they’re not getting along. They’re not getting along. And for that story to not be out and not be national news, I think is … I think it’s a little bit of nobody wanting to piss off the two stars of the team. Lincecum might have a 5.18 ERA, but he’s the face of the franchise. One of them, along with Gerald Posey.
Bruce: Right.
Witrado: And when those two guys have a beef or an issue, whatever you want to call it, somebody should know about it. And you know what? There’s a chance that those beat writers do know. But they can’t get people on the record to say what’s actually happening, so they can’t write it. So I understand the predicament that they’re in with that. It’s a tough line to walk.
Bruce: I got a ton of respect, and we talked a little about this on Saturday night, I think Andrew Baggarly’s phenomenal at what he does. I think Andy is a very, very good beat writer and he makes no journalistic compromises to cover the team. But he did have to do something, I don’t know if he was asked to do it or he felt he needed to do it to maintain that everyday relationship.
Witrado: He should not have had to do it.
Bruce: When he asked Melky a totally legitimate question for the world that we live in, and then was told no, the fact that he felt compelled to issue an apology for just asking a legitimate question. Again, something that would never happen in New York.
Witrado: I like Baggs. Good dude, and he got the short end of the stick on that one.
Bruce: Cause he had it!
Witrado: I mean, he was following up a Twitter … and those things are tough. The age that we live in with social media, and you were talking about how it can rally fans, but it can also create storms that are very tough to get out from under. When you have something like that pop up with Melky Cabrera, it is somebody’s job to at least follow up on it a little bit and Baggs did that. And when he felt the need to apologize, I don’t know if it was him or somebody said that he should do this, or if it was just him trying to maintain relationships within the clubhouse…
Bruce: Which is understandable.
Witrado: Which is totally understandable. But, he was just doing his job, man. He should not have had to apologize and I felt bad for him because I think that when he first apologized about it, I think he really felt remorse for even having to go up to Melky with that. Turns out it was right. What I liked about the national media was, all over Twitter that day everybody said “Andrew Baggarly was the first one to be asking this question” and he was vindicated for asking the question in the first place on that day that Melky was suspended.
Bruce: It’s just, it’s interesting. As someone who’s been around a little bit, lives here and has to maintain everyday relationships here, I can tell you. The Giants are a little peculiar sometimes. A little tricky to maintain that with. They’re very, very controlling of their own message. There’s no doubt about that. But most Major League clubs are.
Witrado: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Most Major League clubs are. I think what’s unique about this situation a little bit is that the Giants, they live in one of the biggest metropolitan areas in the country. You can’t rent a studio for under $2500 or whatever it is. It’s a heavily populated, it’s a dense community, but that’s what it is. It’s a community. L.A. sometimes, where I live, doesn’t feel like a community all the time because it’s so big, it’s so spread out. There are so many movers and shakers and transplants and things like that. This here, and you’re talking about it with the social media again, this feels more like a small town vibe … When you have that small town feel it’s so great on so many levels, but the one bad thing can be is that they feel like the message has to be controlled, and a lot of times people won’t call them on it.
A little history, both recent and not so recent
While Bruce was borderline complimentary about the fans and their Twitter hashtags (#RallyZito, #RallyVogey, #RallyEnchiladas, etc.), but here is what he said during Barry Zito’s superb start on Friday night.
After Game 1, Bruce said the Giants look like “also-rans” and didn’t pass the “eye test,” and also talked about how Hunter Pence looks like he has a problem with a certain drug (20:45 in)
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“As soon as Hunter Pence is done taking meth and firing up the dugout … he looks like a meth addict. There’s no other way to say it. Hunter Pence looks like he has a serious meth dependency problem. He has not blinked in the month of October. Has anyone else noticed that? I’m not saying he’s on meth, I’m saying he looks exactly like a meth addict.”
I’m not sure Bruce’s seemingly antagonistic tone in regards to the Giants is because he’s a Chicago Cubs fan. Perhaps it’s because Bruce sees a lack of journalistic fire and energy shown by the people who cover the team closely.
Or, maybe it’s because the “peculiar,” message-controlling Giants threw their weight around with their flagship station a few years ago, back when Bruce upset many on the team with comments about Barry Zito’s desire. That’s what led to KNBR replacing Bruce on Sportsphone 680 with F.P. Santangelo in early 2010, after Bruce had served as the host of that show for over four years. Bruce has been on KNBR 1050 ever since (save for a short stint hosting with Gary Radnich).

















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I know this is random but, how come KNBR doesn't have Scott McGrew (sp?) and Scott Budman do the business updates anymore? They now have business people from NY doing the business updates.
Did you hear Radnich rip Bruce today as the "Syndicated guy who said Lincecum couldn't do relief"?.."giggle,giggle,giggle" "Larry was right" I wonder how is it..he can have such a mean streak and be revengeful...but say that laughing means "Only teasing"? That's the jerk way of putdowns isn't it? At least Raddy should have the guts to say D.Bruces name.
Yeah, I agree. This Gary and Damon rivalry is getting out of control. This makes them both look bad, and it's kind of embarrassing really, but I guess not all members of the Bay Area sports media get along, even if they work at the same radio or TV station. I remember reading on Lieberman's blog that Dave Benz was basically pissed or I guess miffed when he basically lost his 49ers gig (49ers postgame show on CSN Bay Area and that 49ers Central program that they have on CSN Bay Area each week) to the new guy, Dave Feldman, who went to school with Harbaugh. Back to Gary and Damon though, maybe Damon is right, Gary might be scared of him. LOL. But yeah, if Gary has something to say about Damon, say his name. Damon always mentions Gary's name whenever he criticizes Gary. But yeah, this is out of control. They should be teammates, not enemies, but I guess it creates good radio when you have radio rivalries like this, even though this rivalry is kind of dumb.
someone called in the day before the first game of the series and said he would take pablo sandoval over miguel cabrera..damon bruce hung up on him and called him a cheerleader. what a dolt damon is....mvp of the world series and what did cabrera do..oh yea he struck out to end the final game!
I didn't hear it..but if its typical Damon..he still didn't name names. So whats the point?
Name the writers that is. Is Sue Slusser still his girlfriend? or was that Ann? or both?
Ann Killion.... Yeah, Ann Killion is Damon's "sports girlfriend". LOL. Yeah, Damon has her on every once in a while, but not as much as he used to though. There was a time when Ann Killion was on Damon's show quite a bit, but now she's rarely on his show.
Thanks devnull and B.A. Rich!
I know this is random but, does anyone notice that Damon says that he grew up a Cubs and Bears fan, but he didn't grow up a Bulls fan? It's kind of surprising that he didn't grow up rooting for the Bulls during the Michael Jordan era(s). I guess his alma mater Indiana is his basketball team. But yeah, I was wondering if you guys noticed that. I'm kind of surprised no one has asked him or e-mailed him about that.
As far as 95.7 goes, I like what direction they are going in as I said in the past, but I'm not sure if they can overtake KNBR. I agree with everyone else's criticisms of the station as far as the gimmicks go, and them trying to make themselves seem like they are better than KNBR, when KNBR was the only sports radio station in town for so long, and 95.7 still has a lot of kinks to figure out. I think as a station, 95.7 should do focus on doing their own thing and if they gain popularity and more fans, that's obviously good for the station. They shouldn't compare themselves to KNBR so much. KNBR will probably always be more popular than 95.7 because it's been around longer and everyone is familiar with KNBR, a lot of the hosts have been on KNBR for years and have a larger following than most of he 95.7 hosts, and KNBR is the flagship station of the Giants, 49ers, and Warriors. I'm sure 95.7 got a boost from the season the A's had this year, but they might still have a ways before they overtake KNBR, if they do. I guess I'll talk about their weekday lineup, as we all talked about in the past. The Rise Guys are ok, but I think Murph and Mac is a slightly better morning show, plus they have better guests, as I've mentioned. BTW, speaking of Murph and Mac, does Harbaugh not come on their show anymore? I guess other 49ers coaches are on their show on Tuesdays now. Brian Murphy did used to criticize/complain about Harbaugh quite a bit, about him not really saying much or giving away anything in his interviews. Maybe Harbaugh was like, screw it. LOL. I wonder if there was a disconnect somewhere between Harbaugh and Murph and Mac. As we all know, Harbaugh doesn't like doing interviews anyway. As far as the Townsend and Steinmetz show goes, I don't really listen to this show, because I normally listen to Gary and Krueger at this timeslot but, I agree that Townsend needs a better co-host. Steinmetz is ok, but he's better talking basketball. I'm not too crazy about the Lund and Greg Papa show. I'm sorry. I'm usually listening to Damon's show at this timeslot, but Lund just isn't that good, and as has been said on here before, Greg Papa is like the creepy older guy on this show, but we all know Greg Papa is better than that. I bet Greg Papa could do that show himself if he wanted to. It's kind of surprising they just didn't let Greg Papa host the show by himself and move Lund to another timeslot, maybe even to nights, since they don't have a set night host yet, with the new weekday lineup. As far as Tierney and Bucher goes, this actually isn't that bad of a show, even though I admitted that Bucher makes Tierney more palatable, and maybe even more tolerable, I guess you can say. This is pretty much the only show I listen to on 95.7 on weekdays. They don't really have a night show anymore, even though I guess Rick Tittle does nights now. I guess Mychael Urban is not doing nights as much, if at all anymore, which I'm sure you guys don't mind. LOL. When he is on, he needs a better title for his night show. "It's dark outside"?!? C'mon man. LOL. Yes, he probably wanted a clever title, but you end up laughing at it... But yeah, it seems like Urban is rarely on now. I kind of feel bad for the guy. Hopefully he doesn't get let go by 95.7, now that his role has basically been diminished.
OBIII - As I usually do, I agree with pretty much everything you wrote. Steinmetz is an anchor weighing Townsend down on that show. When you only have 2 hours, do you even need a co-host? And for me, Stienmetz's slow speech doesn't jive with Towny's speed and very often, Stienmetz simply sounds as if he has no idea what he's talking about. Too many times, he either doesn't know or just gets facts wrong. I will never understand how you stomach Tierney though. I would listen to the Cars for Kids commercial on a 4 hour loop before listening to that waste, but to each, his own. :-) I do think it's funny how describe Tierney's show as not "that bad of a show". They should put that on their website or make it the new tagline... "The Drive with Tierney and Bucher... it's not that bad". :-) You're absolutely right about nights now on 95.7. I'm wondering if Towny's ratings were in the crapper for them to do essentially nothing now during the evening slot. One day it's Urban, next day it's Tittle, next day it's Tittle and Guru. It's funny how KNBR has wall to wall callers after evening games at this time slot while the Game seems lost. They need to install a regular host to build their audience and go to midnight taking calls about the games that day. Oh well, there is a laundry list of things that need to be fixed at that station so what's one more, right?
I agree with you on Steinmetz. He probably does weigh Townsend down. I think Townsend could do that show himself, kind of like how he does the A's talk show by himself and how he used to do the night show by himself. I agree with the question of if he needs a co-host with his new show only being 2 hrs. I'm sorry but, they should just go back to having Steinmetz talk basketball and being the Warriors and NBA insider for 95.7. That's his niche, and it's kind of awkward hearing him talk baseball, football, and other sports. They should just have Townsend have his own show, and move the slot from 10-Noon to 9-Noon. It would be interesting to see how the ratings would be if Townsend by himself, competed against Gary and Krueger in the 9-Noon timeslot on weekdays. I would still listen to Gary and Krueger, but I would probably be tempted to switch to Townsend. About Tierney and Bucher, LOL. Yeah, that would be very funny if that was the motto they used for that show on 95.7's website. Why not? LOL.... But yeah, it's not a bad show, but Bucher really does make that show and yes, he does make Tierney more palatable. Gianna, the sports update girl, kind of makes that show too. They go to her quite a bit, and of course she does the "pressure points" segment. Back to Bucher, when Bucher tried out, I wasn't sure how he was going to do, but he did pretty well in the tryouts, and he's been good with Tierney. It's surprising how much knowledge he has about baseball and football. I didn't know that he covered other sports, before he covered basketball on ESPN. I mean, I'm sure he's most known for the basketball stuff he does for ESPN. But yeah, Bucher probably makes the show, just like how Eric Davis used to make that show. As far as the night time slot, yeah, Townsend might've had low ratings, because not as many people listen at night, and/or, you get more drunk callers at night. I agree that they should have a full-time night host, whether it's Urban, The Guru, or Rick Tittle, or maybe even Henry Wofford. I think Townsend was good at the night time slot. It's too bad they moved him.
its a shame. I loved Towny in the evening. Give him his own four hour show from 12-3 and I guarantee he'll do better than Fitz & Brooks or Damon.
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OB3 Harbough was on yesterday and acted like a regular guy, the segment was almost 100% 'Congrats Giants' and he commented on winning close games, leading a team and simply the joys of being a fan and listening to Miller, Krup, Keip and Fleming. Was definitely a different Jim than last years defensive-politico type vs the media persona. Actually, heard a segment a couple weeks back where he was also different and more congenial and interesting than last year.
Oh ok, cool! My bad, I didn't know that. Thanks man! I think I remembered catching Murph and Mac last Tuesday, and they had Greg Roman on instead of Harbaugh. That's why I was wondering if Harbaugh was still on Murph and Mac. That's cool that he congratulated the Giants and was more relaxed on the show!
Yeah that's because Harbaugh is on every other Tuesday then Fangio and Roman alternate those other Tuesdays. I only like listening when Harbaugh is on because there usually a few awkward moments during the interview that I find amusing. It's pretty dull when the coordinators are on. Also, when Harbaugh is on KNBR, he immediately goes on The Bone after. I like switching over to hear that too for the same reasons, awkward moments that are funny.
I love D Bruce, but does anyone else notice how much he loves to mention drinking and drug use? He always talks abkut Athlete DUIs and mentions how he goes out for expensive cocktails but takes a can home. He also loves to hint that he may or may not have experimented at IU w/ other stuff and I've heard him make coke jokes before. The Pence meth thing is kinda crude and distasful to me and I like Bruce and have a pretty high tolerance for radio personalities. Those comments rubbed me the wrong way.
Yeah, he kind of does talk about that a lot more now. Damon is better than that, but once again, this could be an instance where he's joking, and it's probably not meant to be taken that seriously. As far as what Damon said about Pence, yeah, that was kind of bad and maybe he took it a little too far when he said Pence could be on meth, but the guy seriously doesn't blink though, as Damon mentions.
Seriously, are you from Reputation.com? Helping protect Bruce's online image? Every time someone writes something negative about him, there you are with a "yeah, but..."
Exactly what Devnull said. No need to apologize for your politely expressed opinion. I was just making fun.
No need to apologize for saying what you think, Otis; opinions expressed politely and with respect deserve the same in return, whether someone agrees or not. After all, this isn't CSN where the next guy would say "Your an idi0t!!!!!!!!" and think he was being terribly clever ....
haha. No, I'm not from reputation.com. I don't know Damon personally, even though he did respond to a couple of e-mails that I sent to him in the past. It would be cool to meet him one day at a Giants game or at Giants Fanfest or at a 49ers or Warriors event or something.... I'll admit, Damon responding to e-mails is one of the reasons why I am a fan of him. He will write you back, if you write him an e-mail. No other KNBR host does that. Every once in a while, they will read your e-mail over the air, but they don't really respond to e-mails though. I guess since I'm a fan of Damon and his show, I defend him sometimes when there are criticisms written about him. I've even criticized him though. I said that he loves himself a little too much, which kind of goes along with the self-promoting criticism of Damon that is talked about on here. I understand that his show is not for everyone, and I agree with some of the criticisms that are said about him on here, but I was basically just saying that some of the things that he says on his show aren't meant to be taken that seriously. He jokes around a lot. Even with this hashtag stuff, even though he kind of has a point about that. Can Damon be kind of shock-jockish (if that's a word. LOL) at times? Yeah, but a lot of radio hosts are like that. They want to get calls, texts, tweets, and comments on Facebook. But yeah, I'm not from reputation.com. I'm just a fan of Damon and his show. I'm sorry for defending him.
And does anyone think "pound it, pound it, pound it" is all that entertaining?
And Radnich-who changed the title of the show to The Gary Radnich show...and some guy named Larry" has been trying his best to let Krueger know he's lucky to have that job...the freebies like a Lexus and free this and free that. You know, the typical repub mantra..To be bought off is no shame!
WHat?? a sports observer talking about players drug use?. I would say Pence has ADHD,not meth induced drive. In his case..no need for a cure. Why slow himself down with Ritalin?..hyper away, Hunter!
The SF are a corrupt team. It's not surprising that they would control all media that. Goes out about them. This article doesn't even surprsise me. Why was Bruce hacked off 680? BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY SPEAKS HIS MIND. that happens to be a crime if it regards the SF giants. Knbr I believe is a shareholder of the giants or vice versa. The media coming out of there is watered down and made to never criticize the giants. If the giants were doing this with their beat writers especially comcast sportsnet bay area which is ALSO A SHAREHOLDER, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Think about it...
What's this "Giants are a corrupt team" crap? Please give an example. And BTW, Damon was thrown off of 680 because he didn't mesh with Radnich not because he "spoke his mind." Krueger speaks his mind all the time.
Damon was originally "thrown off" of 680 because he spoke his mind. In 2008 when the Giants weren't that good and were a 70+ win team, it seemed like almost after every game in the 2nd half of that season, Damon was clamoring for the Giants to trade for Manny Ramirez, who was still a pretty good player at the time, and whom the Red Sox were willing to trade. Damon kept saying how the Giants would've made the playoffs in 2008 if Manny was here at the time. Of course Manny got traded to the Dodgers and they went to the NLCS in 2008, and they made the playoffs in 2009, with Manny being one of the best hitters on the Dodgers. At that time, Damon did have a point, and Manny probably could've helped out the Giants at the time, but it was obvious that the Giants weren't going to trade for Manny. The Giants don't really bring in big name hitters. It's not their M.O. Obviously, looking back at it now, it was good that Manny didn't come here, after him being busted for PED's early last season, but the Giants really could've used Manny in 2009, when they were in the NL Wildcard race until the last couple of weeks of that season. The Giants weren't going anywhere in 2008, even though Manny probably could've made that season a bit more exciting if he was brought in. In 2009, Damon was essentially demoted in his Sportsphone duties, by just being allowed to do Sportsphone after Giants road games. We should've known something was up at that time. Before 2009, Damon used to do Sportsphone from "the bunker" at AT&T after Giants games, and when this decision was made, the Giants probably didn't want him to be no where near the team, because of his criticisms of the team back then. During the baseball season that year, he was pretty much on every other week, and it wasn't the same. Dave Flemming hosted Sportsphone after Giants home games that year, and you could tell he didn't really want to do it, especially being that he was/is away from his away from his enough as it was/is, with all his Giants duties, Stanford duties, and college basketball duties.... Whenever Damon was on after Giants games that season, he still clamored that the Giants should've signed Manny. They had some frustrating losses that year (14-inning loss in Colorado comes to mind) and Manny probably would've really made a difference on that 2009 Giants team. Then in early 2010, Damon was originally moved to 1050. A lot of people figured that the Giants factored in that decision, even though Damon always says that he was tired of being pre-empted by Warriors and 49ers programming (Warriors Roundtable and the 49ers weekly show) at night, and he didn't want to wait around to do his show so late. He also says it was Lee Hammers decision, but it was obvious the Giants factored into that decision. Damon clamoring for the Giants to bring in Manny, probably didn't help matters. The Giants obviously factored into his original move to 1050 a couple of years ago, and maybe to some extent, his move back to 1050 last year, when his stint with Gary didn't go well. I remember last year when him and Gary interviewed Jed York before the season started, and Jed York seemed uncomforable with some of the questions Damon was asking him. The 49ers and maybe the Warriors too (Damon says the people at the Warriors hate him), probably also factored in his decision to move back to 1050 last year. But yeah, one of the reasons Damon is on 1050, is because he speaks his mind about all the Bay Area teams, and the FO of these teams are kind of sensitive. It's too bad that with Damon's style has gotten him in trouble and is probably one of the reasons why he hasn't been back on 680, but it's too bad that you get in trouble for speaking your mind and being real. Can Damon take it too far at times and make a big deal out of some issues regarding all the Bay Area sports teams? Yes, but he just wants these teams to be good, and he wants whats best of us Bay Area sports fans!
Oh ok.... Yeah, his stint with Gary was probably the reason why Damon went back to 1050. It's kind of too bad that didn't work out, especially since they kind of hate/dislike each other now, but I guess their egos wouldn't let it work.
"Damon is on 1050, is because he speaks his mind about all the Bay Area teams, and the FO of these teams are kind of sensitive. It’s too bad that with Damon’s style has gotten him in trouble and is probably one of the reasons why he hasn’t been back on 680, but it’s too bad that you get in trouble for speaking your mind and being real...he just wants these teams to be good, and he wants whats best of us Bay Area sports fans!" Wow. Sorry to say but you are one of the brain washed sheep. I don't believe anything he says. He just wants attention and to be perceived as honest. The stereo-typical blow hard sports talk host. It's not being real, its trying to get ratings/attention. He's not as big of a jack-ass as Skip Bayless but its the same schtick.
Yes Otis, I think you are correct about why Damon got booted to 1050 the first time. I was only thinking about his short time with Radnich.
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Well, the Giants are actively trying to drive the A's out of the market, for one. Tampa Bay sure seems like a forgotten memory nowadays.
I'm going to say yes and no on that. Obviously, the Giants don't want the A's to move to San Jose, but I think the Giants would be ok with the A's staying in Oakland, and they seemed happy for the A's, with the type of season they had this year.
"Speaking your mind" is done by millions of people in bar rooms, jail cells and some politicians - but devoid of facts, rationality and powered only by one's ego and self promoting - does not make it correct, entertaining or even listenable.
and don't you worship at the feet of Ralph freaking Barbieri?
"and don’t you worship at the feet of Ralph freaking Barbieri?" Good quote Fitz Future Unemployment Check. Barbieri was the biggest Home in the bay area. No one came close to his rah-rah lets go Giants. It was shameless.
Don't get your point, but answer is: No. Don't worship, Ralph - or any other sports team, sports jock or blogger.
so your idea of entertaining is rah rah go team?
I don't think it's necessary to blindly support your team but gratuitous, provocative, outrage can just be annoying. Think Skip Bayless.
The GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT! (and wwe're supposed to be guilty of cheering for them, less than 24 hours later. I'm comfortable with my choice.)
Really not invested in the whole negative culture of sports radio, blogging or jockdom. (Though there is even some here,) but the readers and bloggers here make sense most of the time, even when I disagree with them. Go Giants!
When it's based on pullng for good atheletes, efforts and successful results - YES! Millions spend billions just to do just that.
Maybe not playing into all of this bullshit is part of the reason the Giants are in the WS twice in three years?? The NY and Philly teams just get so exhausted with that crap you can often see it bring them down.
That's an interesting point. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. It seemed like McNabb and A.I. (Iverson) had a such a love-hate relationship with the fans and media in Philly, when McNabb was with the Eagles and A.I. with the Sixers in his first stint, that that must've been exhausting for them to a point. You could tell at times from afar that dealing with the media and fans in Philly, must've been exhausting for them. You could make a case for some Phillies players too like Burrell and Scott Rolen when they were there, and Jimmy Rollins as well. With that being said, even though East Coast sports media and fans can be very rough at times, you have to respect the passion of the East Coast fans and sports media, and how they won't let the sports teams there get away with anything. At the same time though, I'm sure it probably does bring some players down who play there, even though it seems like players like playing in the East Coast, probably because they're in bigger markets, and they get more national exposure. With that being said, players who are on West Coast teams, have to feel better playing out here in the West Coast because they won't get criticized as much, unless they are really bad and West Coast fans, especially us Bay Area sports fans, will let players be themselves. Pence seems like he loves it here with the Giants. I'm sure he liked being in Houston with the Astros and in Philly with the Phillies too, but it seems like he really likes the chemistry of this team and the Giants fanbase here in the Bay Area. But yes, interesting point. I'm sure that could be a factor.
Not a huge fan of Damon, but the guy is right. The Giants have their fingers in most of the major media outlets and are treated like royalty. They make sure of it.
Of course they do. MLB would tell everyone that baseball is America's Game, while playing Springsteen and waving the flag in the background and serving up hotdogs. But baseball = business. I'm sure the owners and the league are having fun too (when they're winning), but they wouldn't be doing any of it if they weren't making money. Among other things, that means controlling the media as much as they can to portray their product in as positive a light as possible.
I like it. I like the ranting and the criticism,. Someone needs to do it. It would be SO BORING if it was just Giants love 24/7. And lets face it, the Giants and KNBR are in bed with each other. Criticize the Giants, and their could be consequences. Props to Damon for taking that on. Now that Ralph Barbieri is gone, its rare to hear anyone step up and give a good brow beating to the Giants when they need one. Larry Krueger, sometimes, but he doesn't bring the fire. Damon is the closest thing. The problem with Damon is that he is such a shameless self promoter that it always comes across like he's screaming for attention -- his credibility comes into question. Plus, if you're going to criticize, leave the personal stuff out of it. That also hurts your credibility.
Quite so -- I don't find Damon's criticism itself objectionable, it's the way he delivers it and the (not so) hidden agenda behind it -- self-promotion. That is, any time you can hear/read a thoughtful well-reasoned analysis it's usually pretty interesting (and pretty rare), positive or negative. A blindly biased homer is just as insufferable as a ranting blowhard bore. But on top of that, Damon's rants usually don't sound like they're really about the supposed topic -- they're about making a bunch of noise to attract attention. Maybe I'm totally mis-reading the guy and he passionately believes everything he says, but it's hard to think that's completely true when he goes from 0 to 60 (cold to hot, whatever) and back again in the blink of an eye. It feels manufactured. And while I can't recall hearing it personally, I've heard other folks (including some here on BASG) say Damon is a different character depending on his audience (e,g. local vs. national) or who he's talking/pandering to (e.g. SJSU vs. the Giants). That sort of flip-flop leaves you feeling the guy is kind of a phony. All of that aside, he's good at what he does, and he's found a nice niche/forum for himself -- his fans are clearly devoted, so give him credit for success.