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KNBR makes lineup change: More P-Con, less Fitz and Brooks

Patrick Connor, producer for “Murph and Mac” and frequent weekend contributor, will get his own one-hour show starting at 5 am each weekday. This was announced this morning on KNBR, according to several listeners and confirmed by Kate Scott.

No schedule changes have been noted on KNBR’s website yet, but Brian Murphy apparently discussed the move well before I woke up this morning (leave me alone, I didn’t get home from Oracle Arena until 1:30 am last night). It sounds like both M&M and “The Gary Radnich Show with Larry Krueger” will be on for the same amount of time, starting/ending an hour later. That leaves Fitz and Brooks, which will lose an hour.

KNBR staffers didn’t hear of the changes until yesterday, and so far I’ve been unable to unearth the reason(s) they were made. But if I were to make a few guesses …

1. Murph and Mac, who’ve pulled strong ratings numbers for years (according to the “secret” listener demographics ratings (men 25-54) that former 95.7 program director Jason Barrett published on his own blog, M&M beat Flight 957 handily in December), may have wanted to get up an hour later.

2. Maybe Cumulus is looking to make some comparisons between it’s lineup and the competition. The new lineup allows M&M to take off at the same time as Flight 957, while The Gary Radnich Show with Larry Krueger will now start at the same time Guy Haberman and John Middlekauff begin their show on 95.7.

3. 95.7’s noon-to-3 show hosted by Greg Papa and John Lund beat Fitz & Brooks in the December ratings by a score of 4.2 to 3.1. Radnich and Krueger held a slight edge over Haberkauff in the men 25-54 demo in December, according to Barrett.

4. There could be some sort of scheduling conflict for either Bob Fitzgerald or Rod Brooks, or one of the two hosts could even take a break from hosting for a while.

5. Cumulus management loves P-Con and this is a tryout of sorts. Connor has hosted “The Sports Saloon” during football season and joined Marty Lurie for “Weekends at the Park” before Giants weekend home games for multiple years.

This doesn’t necessarily represent a major change, and will only affect early risers and those who’ve built their lunch schedule around Fitz and Brooks. However, this is the first lineup tweak in several years for “The Sports Leader,” and any alterations made by Cumulus can be considered noteworthy in light of the layoffs (at least 20 full-time staffers) seen at KGO and KFOG a few weeks ago.

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goldforit
goldforit

I absolutely LOVE Ray Woodson, and I think he's the best host on all of radio.  I'd be lost without him!  My problem is I simply can't stand Ryan Covay, and he's ruining Sportsphone 680.  It's almost at the point when I can't listen anymore.  Ray is calm, speaks NORMAL, and makes good observations.  Covay sounds like a punk college kid who's charged up on red bull.  He truly loves the sound of his own voice, and surely thinks he knows it all.  Enough of the stupid catch phrases Ryan.   Hopefully KNBR gives him his own show (assuming that's their plan) so I can turn him off.  In the meantime, please keep him away from Ray!!  Otherwise, I'm finished with KNBR - other than listening to Giants games.  

JamesRoman1
JamesRoman1

Bay area radio continues to be quite pathetic, with its emphasis on that atrocious bay area humor and its preference for the corny personalities of white guys.  Too many boring white guys, with their stupid conversation and comments, idiotic-sounding attempts to be funny, lack of substance, and habit of talking over each other.  Just a bunch of fast-talking, overly happy idiots, with sappy musical voices.  This change aligns with more of this absurdity.

Oyippee
Oyippee

The Fitz and Brooks show is terrible. I cant stand Fitz. Whats with the continuous laughter, about everything, and nothing they say is even remotely funny. And he sounds extremely angry sometimes when he's talking about things, he is just flat out annoying.I cant even stand listening to Fitz during Warriors games. Tim Roye and Jim Barnett are so much better than Fitz. Murph and Mac - they are a rock and movie talk show hosts on a sports show..I want to hear sports talk, if I wanted to hear about movies and music, I'd change the channel to a "real" rock station. Tolbert - he is funny but can drift off to weird subjects. Ratto, annoying with all his negativity. PCon -  he drifts off to weird subjects (he tends to say things that I think are just gross, I dont want to hear about his bowel movements or lack of them) Marty Lurie and Ray Woodson - love listening to these guys, they stick to the subject of sports. Gary and Larry - I actually love these two, they are funny. Yes they can be a little irritating but I still like them

Otis Byrd III
Otis Byrd III

fact275  Yeah, Marty's hours have been cut for now, but he will probably be back to having those marathon weekend postgame shows after the Warriors season is over (hopefully in mid-late June after another title run!). In a way, it's probably good for Marty though because he's up in age and you don't want him to wear himself thin. Bill and Vida, I agree, I'll pass too. They're better on CSN Bay Area on Giants pre and postgame. When you hear them on KNBR, they can get boring at times, unless they are on with Marty for a few segments. Ray Woodson, good guy, but I'm not big on his show. He's kind of boring and somewhat kind of too indifferent for a postgame show. I was hoping he would get moved to be Tolbert's co-host, but now that Lund will be Tolbert's new co-host, I guess Woodson stays on Sportsphone for now. They could be grooming Ryan Covay to be the next Sportsphone host though. I think Woodson is stronger with a co-host or in fill-in duty. Woodson was strongest back when he did updates for Gary's show back in the day, and he was part of the Bruno segment. Totally agree with you on Tolbert and Murph and Mac. It will be interesting to see if Tolbert's show will change when Lund eventually comes aboard. Murph and Mac used to be good, but it's hard to listen to them now.

Otis Byrd III
Otis Byrd III

fact275 I pretty much agree with what you said..... About Gary, I never understand why he does that. He tries to make people look bad for being diehard sports fans. It's like just because Gary appears to not care as much for sports, doesn't mean he has to make people who love sports or have a real passion for sports, look like idiots or make them seem like they have no life. So what if you are 40 and wear a jersey. What's the big deal? They're supporting their team. LOL.... Wow, so Gary's 2nd marriage changed him as a sports fan? In a way, I guess I can see that. He's almost had to start over and have a new life since he's been with Alicia and have younger kids. As far as Gary's criticisms of Marty, it's obvious Gary is jealous of Marty's success. Marty gets to come in on weekends and talk baseball all weekend. Is very popular amongst most baseball fans here in the Bay Area. Gary would probably love to have that. I think Krueger is good, but Gary is holding him back to some extent. That show is much better when Gary is off and Krueger is hosting the show. With that being said, Krueger isn't the old Sportsphone Krueger though back in his younger days.

JacobWang
JacobWang

Fitz, the Warriors' TV play-by-play guy, probably appreciates the extra hour of sleep after a game

fact275
fact275

I listened to KNBR all the time in my college years and then during the Harbaugh 49ers years. But now it's mostly tripe: M&M: Morning shows have to be light but I got tired of the stick after a while. About his age, I tire of Murphy being the self-proclaimed arbiter of our generation's pop and sporting culture. Radnich: Ruled the Bay Area in the early 90s but he's long past his prime. He can't take sports seriously and makes fun of those that do. And he works on a sports station. His shots at Marty are petty too. I had a friend who interned at KRON with him for years and he told me when he remarried he was never the same (vis-a-vis his sports interest). Krueger is nothing special but acts like he is. Fitz & Brooks: Too much GSW talk even before they became all world. Mr. T: Okay on sports but when he tries to joke or be silly it's not happening. Ray Woodson: Don't mind him when he's actually not pre-empted. It's lame his show doesn't go to 11 p.m. on non-game nights but Cumulus apparently like pinched pennies. Marty: Pretty much the only reason I listen to KNBR at all though his hours have been cut back with Bill & Vida (I'll pass) and GSW playoffs.

GregMolumby
GregMolumby

Wow that is interesting regarding Gianna. At least she is still capable of standing up for her own and speaking out. I like Gianna but whenever I hear the show it sounds like she and Damon agree on everything so reading about her discomfort at first is really interesting. I do agree that they sound good together but I get this sense of her sucking up. Based on your comments I might listen to the show differently.

Otis Byrd III
Otis Byrd III

GregMolumby I agree with you regarding Damon. His show is great, but he does kind of make it seem like it's his way or the highway in some discussions. If you don't agree with him, you're done. LOL. As far as Gianna goes, you're right. She does kind of agree with Damon on everything including women in sports issues, even though she sometimes checks Damon on things regarding women's issues so that Damon won't say another controversial statement that could get him in hot water again. LOL.... I think the one thing they really disagreed on so far was Coldplay performing at Super Bowl 50. Damon hated the idea, while Gianna was cool with it. They debated it for like almost an hour. LOL. It was a funny conversation though. Gianna said something interesting regarding Damon a month or so ago. She said when she found out that she was going to work with Damon when he was going to come to 95.7, she didn't want to work with him at first. Damon basically had to mend fences I guess in order for her to buy in and agree to work with him. I was kind of surprised that she admitted that, but a lot of women in local media were pissed off at Damon at the time because of his women in sports rant. Gianna might've been too at the time, but it sounded like Gianna didn't want to work with Damon at first because of his rep. With that being said, Damon and Gianna have become a great team and work great together. Their banter adds to the entertainment of Damon's show. It's good that Gianna was able to put her differences with Damon at the time to the side, and was willing to work with him.

GregMolumby
GregMolumby

The problem I have with Damon is really his ego. He yells, it comes across as a prick and mr. Know it all, and he has a holier than thou attitude. Also Gianna feels like a Shill under Damon's whims. Have they ever disagreed about something. Gianna comes across as someone who deserves better. I still listen to his show sometimes because there isn't anything else. Tolbert is on both channels and then I probably still listen to music but music on the radio is awful too. I do agree about getting rid of Ratto. Ratto was decent the first year but I'm actually enjoyed Frandson on with Tom lately. Just wish they opened up 1050 to either cbs sports or struck a deal to bring JT back. JT covers the raiders but isn't on radio anywhere? That doesn't make sense.

John Crook
John Crook

This: If I put P-Con in the Gary and Larry timeslot, I would have P-Con co-host with Larry and do the unthinkable and get rid of Gary. Yes, Gary still has a lot of fans and Gary can be ok and somewhat entertaining in spurts, like his sports updates on KRON when he's on for a few minutes, but Gary is unlistenable now and he drags down his own show. I think if you had Larry and P-Con, that would be 3 decent hours of sports talk.

Otis Byrd III
Otis Byrd III

PoggiNation BASportsGuy I think Fitz does sometimes. Fitz might be pulling a Greg Papa where he does the show from his house, especially if the Warriors have a game at Oracle that night. It's weird in that you can tell they (Fitz and Greg Papa) are in another room or doing the show remotely when they do their shows from home. Their voices sound different and you can tell they aren't in studio. About Rod, I guess he does miss time, but when I use to listen to this show, Fitz would be off quite a bit too though, either due to Warriors duties or I guess other stuff. I wonder if Rod possibly taking care of his kid could have something to do with him missing time. Rod is on Comcast more now too, so I guess he could be preparing for his appearances there on the Sports Talk Live show.

Otis Byrd III
Otis Byrd III

Beaver Fitz hasn't been let go because as has been mentioned in the past, Fitz is a company man. I do agree with what you though. Fitz is not held in as high regard as Kruk and Kuip (I think you compared Fitz to them last time in that he's not as popular), Jon Miller, or even Greg Papa, Ted Robinson, Tim Roye, and Barnett.  I think Fitz does a great job calling Warrior games, but you can tell that his personality at times could rub some the wrong way. He called a Spur fans a jerkoff, even though I agreed with his frustration at the time. LOL. To be honest, I was surprised Fitz emceed the Warriors parade last year. I thought it might've been Greg Papa or even Tim Roye I guess, but Fitz has been with the Warriors since they were a perennial losing team, so he did deserve to have that moment at the Warriors parade last year.

Otis Byrd III
Otis Byrd III

On a side note, I agree with the question that someone mentioned earlier regarding Kate. I must've missed it regarding her not doing the updates for Gary and Larry's show, and not being on Gary and Larry's show anymore. KNBR kind of kept that quiet. Even Lieberman didn't write about this in his blog.  I know Kate is doing some work for Pac-12 Network and I think Comcast/NBC Bay Area as well, but I was surprised there wasn't an announcement on this.

Otis Byrd III
Otis Byrd III

I tried to listen to Fitz and Brooks on President's Day I think it was when 95.7 had the day off for their weekday shows, and it was hard to really get into the Fitz and Brooks show..... I would either just drop the Fitz and Brooks show completely, or I would keep Rod and have him co-host with someone else. I would maybe give 95.7 a call and see if one of their hosts would want more exposure on a prime slot on KNBR, maybe Guru and/or Zachariah or they could bring Dibley back. The ultimate power move would be to poach Papa from 95.7, but since he calls games for the Raiders, it might be hard for KNBR to do that in general, and probably contractually as well. I guess I would keep Tom in the drivetime timeslot, but I wouldn't have Ratto with him anymore. We see Ratto quite a bit on CSN Bay Area. That's all the Ratto we need, I think haha. I would probably have Ray Woodson be Tom's regular co-host, since Woodson does better with a co-host than solely hosting a show by himself. Then for Sportsphone, I would have Ryan Covay do that. You can kind of tell that they might be grooming him to eventually be the next Sportsphone host. I think he could handle it.

Otis Byrd III
Otis Byrd III

As far as the overhaul goes, I would've probably put P-Con at a later timeslot, maybe 9-Noon and or put him in Murph and Mac's timeslot and have him co-host with Brian Murphy. If I put him with Brian Murphy, the obvious choice there would be to get rid of Paulie Mac. Yes, him and Brian Murphy have had a great thing since 2006 (hard to believe it's been 10 yrs), but the morning show is unlistenable now. They need a change there, and I think P-Con and Brian Murphy would be able to do a good show, and it wouldn't be as homerish. If I put P-Con in the Gary and Larry timeslot, I would have P-Con co-host with Larry and do the unthinkable and get rid of Gary. Yes, Gary still has a lot of fans and Gary can be ok and somewhat entertaining in spurts, like his sports updates on KRON when he's on for a few minutes, but Gary is unlistenable now and he drags down his own show. I think if you had Larry and P-Con, that would be 3 decent hours of sports talk. As far as Fitz and Brooks go, like everyone else, it's good that their show will be cut down an hour. They might not like it, but oh well. Their show sucks. LOL. I used to like their show as well, but somewhere the past few years, their show has become awful.  I think when they had competition, Damon Bruce back when he was on 1050 in the Noon-3 hours and Lund and Papa on 95.7 those same hours, the Fitz and Brooks show became the 2nd and 3rd option which therefore kind of made their show unlistenable because there were better options available for sports talk shows to listen to at that timeslot. Fitz and Brooks weren't the only Bay Area sports talk radio show to listen to from Noon-3 anymore.

Otis Byrd III
Otis Byrd III

As far as this announcement goes, like others, I think this would've been a chance for KNBR to do an overhaul. It is great for P-Con that he gets a weekday spot, but I agree that it is unfortunate that it's at 5AM though when most people might not be tuning in.  What will P-Con's weekday show be about though? At the very least this will give him more exposure as a talk show host, and he won't be known as just a producer.

Otis Byrd III
Otis Byrd III

GregMolumby Oh man, you used to like Damon. Yeah, his ego has gotten a little bit bigger since he's come over to 95.7, but if you think about it, he's gotten everything he's wanted on 95.7 that he never got a KNBR (a primetime weekday timeslot, more notoriety/attention, way better guests (he killed it with the guest lineup Super Bowl week), more than likely better pay). Plus, the guy has a girlfriend, and it looks like he's enjoying life right now. Not to excuse his ego, but I have noticed it as well. Damon has always had kind of a big ego though. I agree with you on the KNBR simulcast. It doesn't make any sense. There's no hope for 1050. Damon kind of helped give 1050 notoriety back when he was there, but ever since Damon left 1050, 1050 has kind of went back to being the lesser KNBR station, even though it's kind of unfortunate Warrior playoff games are being pushed on that station, even though I like that the Warriors are using KGO as an option as well, whenever the Giants are on 680 and the Warriors playoff game/coverage is around the same time as the Giants game. The Giants will never be pushed to 1050 or KGO, but it really is amazing how much of a priority the Giants take over the Warriors and the 49ers on 680.

TSL
TSL

On a serious note.  Congratulations to Patrick Connor for his new program. Long over due. Only wish it was on during the during normal listening hours.

Beaver
Beaver

I know I've asked this before, but after 20 years, shouldn't a team's announcer be beloved and seen as something of an institution and part of the team?  Fitz is none of these things; if anything, he is the exact opposite.  He would be forgotten the day the Warriors dumped him, and there would be none of the outcry there was when the Warriors tried to replace JB.  As savvy as Lacob and Gruber are, I continue to be surprised that they keep Fitz around - they have to know how negatively he is perceived..  He's like the turd in the punchbowl of all the good feelings surrounding the Warriors.

guest
guest

KNBR will die w/o the Giantes. The hosts basically fool around until game time. I missed Frank and Mike morning show. Murphy and the other guy, arghhh The Game 95.7 is slowly but surely is gaining on KNBR. 95.7s can do even better if they can switch to a stronger signal AM station.

TSL
TSL

Here's a suggestion. Fitz and Brooks should be placed on a permanent hiatus.

Fontaine68
Fontaine68

I think it's a great move, PCon seem more real and genuine and has great takes on sports and life.

zinnsand21
zinnsand21

MilpitasNinerGuy You must be kidding. This is what he sounds like... Dihdihdidh,blaaaaahhh.. Dihdihdihblaahh, dihdihdihdihdihdihdihdihdihdihdihblaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........

zinnsand21
zinnsand21

IMO, Fitz does an outstanding job with the Warriors play by play. Now the afternoon show with Rod Brooks-not so much.. Actually KNBR sports talk in general is pretty bad. Too many commercials. Mr. T still entertaining though..

skeets2086
skeets2086

BernalHtsBB BASportsGuy Fitz is so arrogant... He is a junior Razor Barbieri

skeets2086
skeets2086

BASportsGuy can t stand fitz.. wishe he wasnt on at all

ciruelas_rojas
ciruelas_rojas

BernalHtsBB When did Kate ditch them? BASportsGuy

BayAreaMartinez
BayAreaMartinez

BASportsGuy can we just give up Fitz altogether? Call it even.

Slam
Slam

"Hey P-Con, you're getting a promotion !" "Really, tell me about it" "you have a 1 hour show ( that's about 23 minutes after the ads ) at 5am !" "oh"

Slam
Slam

brigge33012 BASportsGuy  "Good Fitz" is he's a really good NBA play by play guy for the Warriors. He has done some "D List" NFL games and some Olympics. He has a great voice and he's just good at it. "Bad Fitz" is as a talk show guy. He's pompous, nasty, rude to any caller who disagrees with him. Just horrible. He shouldn't be doing talk radio.

MilpitasNinerGuy
MilpitasNinerGuy

Tolbert has that problem too.....just much more likable.

MilpitasNinerGuy
MilpitasNinerGuy

Thank goodness. Fitz easily most bombastic host in market. Never considers opinions he doesn't hold. Brooks only slightly less bad.

Beaver
Beaver

Yup, congrats to PCon!  He may not be very polished, but at least he's interesting because he doesn't tow the company line - more Bartstool, less Giants.  I'm not sure how Stuttering Rod is going to be able to put together a cogent thought in under two hours though.

norcalpunkman
norcalpunkman

BASportsGuy damn I was hoping they would dump Ray fatso

amramdoesnotwrk
amramdoesnotwrk

BASportsGuy brooks needs to shorten his sentences and get to the point.

enes69
enes69

BASportsGuy LOLKNBR Congrats, pcon34 !!

ciruelas_rojas
ciruelas_rojas

BASportsGuy LOLKNBR whoa. Have you listened to the midnight replay? There's a commercial saying listen 12-3 pm but doesn't mention hosts!

Homer2612
Homer2612

BASportsGuy still to much Fitz

aj_strong
aj_strong

BASportsGuy I'd rather see P-Con on 1-3pm and Fitz/Brooks moved to 5-6am.

GoaliePuke
GoaliePuke

okerland BASportsGuy don't like either would rather listen to Rhome on 1050 or music

murphysolve
murphysolve

BASportsGuy I actually like Fitz on the radio- by himself. The other guy is annoying

okerland
okerland

GoaliePuke BASportsGuy I enjoy them more than Gary and Larry

GoaliePuke
GoaliePuke

okerland BASportsGuy nobody worried about Hauerkauff they're terrible

AnthonySCorona
AnthonySCorona

BASportsGuy Fitz is the worst but pcon isn't great. I was listening on Sats but he is just a hater & gets too political.With Marty he's OK

okerland
okerland

BASportsGuy interesting that they are more worried about Lund and Papa than Haberkauff

jonathan535is
jonathan535is

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