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Marty Lurie and Patrick Connor, LLP: an unequal partnership

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My wife and I left a little after 10 am yesterday for Healdsburg to hang out with my sister. On the drive up north we were listening to the San Francisco Giants pregame show, hosted by Marty Lurie. Since it was the pregame show and not the postgame show, Lurie had a familiar partner: Patrick Connor.

While listening through San Rafael and Novato, my wife started picking up on something I’ve noticed during these Lurie/P-Con shows — Connor can barely get a word in. Lurie loves to talk about baseball, which could why he stopped lawyering and became a full-time radio host. His ability to analyze the Giants and take calls for hours on end is how he got the nickname “Marathon Marty.”

However, it’s easy to tell who’s the partner and who’s the paralegal in this law firm. Lurie does everything he can to either talk over Connor, dispute whatever he says, or simply change the subject entirely without acknowledging Connor’s point(s). What results is Connor being reduced to interjecting with a “yeah” or “wow” or “uh huh” as Lurie pontificates, almost to prove he didn’t drop his headset on the table and walk over to the Public House bar for a beverage.

“If Patrick wants to talk, he’d have to call into the show,” my wife said at one point, and I had a hard time disagreeing. Lurie lets the callers prattle on and on for the most part, whether or not they speak slowly, stutter or bring the proceedings to a halt with some long story from 1964. Lurie can barely let Connor get three words out without piping in.

It wasn’t just Sunday, either. On Saturday morning I listened to the pair while walking to AT&T Park. After Ann Killion was on, Lurie and Connor had this exchange:

Lurie: “UCLA is in the background. I know that’s why she went on (Brandon) Crawford so well.

Connor: “Right, right.”

Lurie: “I know that, c’mon I know that.”

Connor: “I LIVE that…”

Lurie: “When Florida beat UCLA, she paid me five bucks every year Florida took care of UCLA in basketball.”

Connor: “I’m basically an honorary member of of the Bruin nation…”

Lurie: “I got my five bucks from her.”

Connor: “Between her and Brian Murphy, I feel like I live in Westwood…”

Lurie: “I got my five bucks from her each year the Gators took care of them.”

Why is KNBR forcing the issue here? It’s clear Lurie doesn’t want to share the microphone, and he certainly doesn’t seem interested in Connor’s opinion most of the time. When Mychael Urban hosted the pregame show, he and Connor seemed to genuinely enjoy each other’s company. Urban would laugh whenever Connor crossed the line with a risqué comment, and there was an actual conversation going on between the two. But with Urban now working for 95.7 FM “The Game,” the same chemistry just isn’t there between the marathon man and P-Con.

Playing Lee Hammer for a day

Connor seemed to have a blast doing his own show during football season, and perhaps he’s under contract to work weekends and would like to continue doing so for obvious reasons. That got me thinking…

Question: is there a big, loyal audience for the business shows from 8-9 am on the weekends (“Protect Your Assets” on Saturdays and “Gary Allen on Business” on Sundays) on “The Sports Leader”?

If I were making decisions at 55 Hawthorne (I know, good luck with that), I might move both business programs to the 6-7 am slots and give Connor his own hour between 8-9 am where he could talk about whatever he wants (like college football and/or the issues of the week). I would imagine that would make Connor happy, since he’d actually be able to talk. It would also make Lurie happy, because he could do his thing without any obstacles. Listeners would be happier, because it’s not exactly comfortable to listen to a pairing that doesn’t seem to get along all that well.

Besides the business guys, everyone would be happier (and since I’m pretty sure “Protect Your Assets” is nothing more than a paid advertisement, my idea is probably dead in the Cove already).

I understand that with Lurie often talking for four, five or more hours per weekend day, there’s a temptation to break things up by giving him a younger, more energetic co-host. But Lurie just bulldozes through the first couple hours, doing the same show he would if Connor was taking the weekend off. Maybe I’m wrong and they love working together, but it doesn’t seem that way to this listener … or my wife, who was clearly hoping I’d change the station by the time we hit Petaluma.

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Catbird
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Agreed. it was borderline ridculous on Sunday how Lurie didn’t even acknowledge anything PConn said and continuously cut him off. This is not going to last I am surprised that PConn has said something.

Scott
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I agree with this. I think P-Con deserves more air time. I shook his hand at the public house and he couldn’t have been any nicer. When he talks I listen.

E
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I was driving down from Sierras Sat morning, so I listened to the pre-game that you listened to. I finally shut it off. (When my better half is in the car, she does not allow KNBR except for live game broadcasts) On a tangential path, Eric Davis over at 95.7 will talk over Brandon Tierney quite often, when he is fed up with Tierney’s ignorance, pomposity, or blathering bombast in general. Its the worst pairing in radio. Its matching up a physicist with a 6th grader. Clearly Eric Davis does not need an East Coast blowhard with no local ties… Read more »
The Sports Leader
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Not bad Mr EJune.
“full of himself wind merchant” good quote.
My only problem with Marty is he needs to listen to his guest/co-host more and let them chime in.

paperback writer
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paperback writer

Hi Billy Beane…..soooooooo…that’s why you had him fired????

Blaster
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EJune… Brilliant post. Just brilliant. I couldn’t agree more. Tierney is Tony Danza on the air. Just awful. Luire is equally bad in different ways. I’m glad Lurie isn’t doing A’s pre/post game anymore. Tittle and Townsend blow both of those hacks out of the water.

Matt
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I have a somewhat related question. Is Marty Lurie that liked by the listeners to justify all the airtime that KNBR gives him? I don’t know what his ratings are, but I personally don’t understand why he gets SO MUCH airtime on the weekends. I just don’t think he’s that good. Sure, he may know obscure baseball stories from the 1950s, but those stories get old fast (no pun intended). He also lets callers ramble on and on, no matter how pointless or inane their comments are. It’s hard to listen to when he’s running the show.
Stan
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As I understand it,Marty get his own advertisers,the more time he fills the more money for KNBR. Its his die hard nature for baseball that’s funny. He lives for the game.
I must be getting older myself..I have shades just like Martys!

paperback writer
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Patrick and Marty are alike.

Marty = baseball, Patrick=football. They are both passionate and motor mouths about their sport, I like both – but only when they are talking about their specialty sport.

I do sympathise with the younger demographic in listening to old-timey baseball with Marty, for I felt the same EXACT frustration, when I had to listen to Mike Urban.

Urban’s attempts to be Mr Cool-Hip-Hop-Rap-Daddy in his weak efforts to do the baseball show a while ago were lame.
(Then there was his ‘Hoovering’ of ‘Zeets’), geez.

Stan
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It could be that Marty is put off by the juvenile humor and right wing opinions of Conners..who I know,is just trying to cultivate a “persona”..of conservative ( Who I once admonished for calling the President of the USA a “sissy”) beer drinking ex Marine flag waver. Marty..scholarly.
Marty doesn’t want to hear bar storys and baseball.
Urban?..a hard core conservative..who loves his pot I would think. He and Conners of the same tribe. And Urban too has bashed Obama.

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I’m gonna go way out on a limb and guess that PC and Urban aren’t the only 2 people on the planet who have a problem with the Commander in Chief. Not exactly a relevant distinction.

As for openly bagging on Obama, well, that would be career suicide in the BA. I’m sure I don’t listen (and haven’t listened) as consistently as you, but I doubt either one of them has been consistently critical of the POTUS.

John Sports
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Stan is pretty much dead on about the bashing of our President Backdrop, Maybe not constantly but quite frequently. John Lund is by far the worse he will throw jabs at the Pres. every chance he gets.

Stan
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Even though I know Teriney is part of that conservative crowed…I like his show. He went after Wollf like no other, He sometimes does that “I see the elephant in the room” that other sportswriters don’t.
But,I think he does embellish that NY Bronx awkcent.. Its the entertainment bizz too in the sports talk world.

paperback writer
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Tierney is a weather vane, he says what’s trendy today, then will change it when the wind is blowing the other way, tomorrow.

He is what’s known in NY, as a ‘cavone.”

Stan
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But-lol-Conners is also given the bums rush on the Radnich show when he does appear…
Raddy at this point in his career cant afford controversy.

Stan
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..When Pecon gets riled up..and wants to spout off on Raddy’s show.Radnich has a pained look on his face..and then tells Pecon “That’s enough”. Its obvious that Larry Kreuger is now Raddy’s favorite man..lol. Pecon..is just another ex!

The Sports Leader
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Good observation BASG. I have noted the same thing occuring over the past year or two.
Marty Lurie is giving new meaning to the word filibuster.
Why have a co-host?

Stan
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I think Conners-is the producer? And Marty wants him to stick to that I guess.

JZ
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I think you’re right Stan. However, it is kind of denigrating when P-Con makes a point that about 70 percent of us would make, and Martie just absolutely cuts him down and off, but I heard a caller or two yesterday saying to just ‘cut’ Lincecum right now, AND Martie just let them make their point.

Not trying to denigrate the callers myself, but all I’m saying is that P-Con usually has some halfway decent points to make (nothing outlandish) and Martie treats him like if he just said something crude about his own daughter or wife.

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I was going to comment that p-con is the producer. For me he seems way out of his element and so desperate. I hate his saloon show and it seems like he is always a bud light boy trying desperately to impress lightweights.

Also, his knowledge seems to be about things outside the bay area. Marty should drop the penny-drunk-cheerleader!

Stan
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I think back to when he was on the Raddy show and would go and on about SEC sports. He even once said proudly that the second string Auburn running back went to high school in Florida..such useless knowledge I never heard. And to this day,I’m still stuck with that in my head…

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Wow. A grandstanding former criminal defense attorney who’s also a loud-mouthed control freak. Will wonders never cease.

I’m guessing here, but I suspect Lurie and PC are about a hundred million miles apart politically. Marty probably doesn’t like it that PC can’t quote verbatim from the Huffington Post and New Yorker.

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Great post. PConn is one of the great underrated and underutilized talents on KNBR. With that quirky sense of humor, unique ting of a Southern draw and a propensity to light-heatedly mix things up he adds spice to many broadcasts either during the week or with Marty. Listening to the two of them, Marty comes off as an arrogant, baseball know-it-all who is forced to team up with an incolent child – but that tension is quit amusing. I only with PConn would irritate Marty more as he’s pretty deferential unfortunately. Also, Marty’s penchant for Giant homerism is in full… Read more »
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I also enjoy Patrick Connor’s work on KNBR. I remember the Saturday morning when Al Davis died, I was visiting the area, tuned in to the Saloon, and right away when Patrick was talking to Gary on Saturday about Mr. Davis, I know what was up. The whole morning I was able to listen, Connor held a really good show.

Overall, I enjoy his take on things. It’s different form the PC-approved Bay Area take at times, but is always respectful (if humorous). I definitely enjoy Patrick Connor on the radio over Marty Lurie, any day.

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Out and out censorship, ala Pravda 1965…..How unseemly. Not in the least surprising, but unseemly nonetheless.

Catbird
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I agree, let PConn loose and get under Lurie’s skin. Would make for far more entertaining radio.

3rdKing
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and this is why I stopped listening to Marty….it’s all about Marty…..yawn…he’s not even entertaining or that smart

3rdKing
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pcon should go to the game and get ralph to join him….then id listen

Otis Byrd III
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Wow, I can’t believe you guys. I can’t believe I’m seeing these comments about Marty Lurie. He would probably be sad to read these, even though I don’t think he’s much into blogs really. I think Marty Lurie is pretty good overall. Yeah, his postgame shows are a little too long on the weekends, and yeah, they can get somewhat boring because of the length of the shows, and it seems like he kicks around the same topics (nicknames of Giants players (honestly, that has gotten kind of old. LOL), Giants issues, trades to kick around), but he has serious… Read more »
Otis Byrd III
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I got to put Larry Krueger in their too….. Next to Damon Bruce, Larry Krueger, and probably Ray Woodson, Marty Lurie has to be one of, if not the hardest working host/employee on KNBR right now.

Otis Byrd III
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Otis Byrd III

*there

tommyj
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Gotta agree…honestly Patrick doesn’t have a lot to offer on this program and does a lot of offering on his other venues. (“Sports Saloon?, the day Al Davis died he did a great job, otherwise not to my taste). Marty lets his guests go on (which is good), but also lets bad calls go on ( not ggod ofter-I switch the station when the caller begins “I’ve been a Giants fan since”….Dude you don’t need credentials to make a point on a Sunday night call-in show!) Marty’s only on twice a week (albeit for about 30 hrs), let him do… Read more »
Otis Byrd III
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I agree. P-Con might not be suited for the Giants pre and postgame shows with Marty Lurie, mainly for the reasons that have already been stated. They’re just both different guys and don’t really relate to each other well enough to where they could have deep baseball conversations and discussions. Even though Krueger is busy on weekends, with his family commitments, Krueger would probably be a good co-host with Marty on some weekends, and they can talk baseball for an hour or so, pre or post game. Sometimes Krueger calls into Marty’s show on weekends, so why not have him… Read more »
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I had insomnia for a few weeks.

I taped Marty and returned to my regular sleep paterns as I would listen to him before bed.

Oh yeah, just was in ecstasy listening to him discribing those players from the thirties and forties.

So interesting. My My My…

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I’m fine with PCon not getting much of a word in. I don’t like him, not on anyone’s show. When Urban was hosting the Giants weekend pre-game shows PCon interrupted and talked so much I began to wonder who the host really was. Urban never seemed to mind but I definitely did. I don’t really value anything he has to say. I wish PCon would defect to the FM sports station like Dibley.

John Sports
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Sorry this is way off subject, just scored tickets to the US open practice rounds tomorrow…I have never been there any suggestions on parking? Should we take Bart? I live out in the East Bay…Thanks, again i apologize for being off subject, just thought someone may know the best way.

Stan
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Even more off topic..I clicked on recent comments for JS…and it only took me to page one of the topic…I guess when my browser clears..it affects the go -to?

John Sports
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It always does that for me Stan, I always have to surf…Back to the off subject topic (sorry BASG) any ideas on parking?

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Agreed, with both Stan & JS (a banner day!) — clicking a link in the recent comments box almost always takes me to page 1 of the article rather than the specific comment within the article.

Unfortunately it doesn’t happen 100% of the time, and I can’t consistently reproduce it either direction, so I’m not sure what the pattern is.

Dana Ferris
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I like Marty, but he’s way too gentle with some really bad callers. As for P-Con, I’m not a fan, and it seems like a poor fit with Marty.

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Marty Lurie wears a hat that says “Marty Lurie talks basbeall”… he also gave them to his staff- I hung mine on my “wall of things I don’t really care about”- In between my Ryan Klesko autographed baseball and Alex Hinshaw autographed baseball.

That’s all you need to know about Marty.

Patrick was always really nice to me, his wheelhouse is college football- he’s not a great mesh with Marty- and he doesn’t say anything about being cut off because he respects Marty.

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I mostly enjoy Laurie’s show but he does annoy me when callers begin to question/criticize the Giants. His answer is always some variation of: 1. It’s a long season there’s 162 games. 2. We’ll just have to see how it goes/plays out there’s still plenty of games to be played. It’s his go to response to anything he doesn’t want to talk about or further discuss. It’s very dismissive and condescending. So if we’re just supposed to sit back and see how things go over the long 162 game season and what, not talk about certain problems on the team?… Read more »
The Sports Leader
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You hit the nail on the head with those responses.
I enjoye Marty as welll, but he does the “it is a long season” rather frequently.

Stan
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But really-who’s fault is that? A man can only say so much about baseball. After 6 hours a day for two months..If KNBR is going to allow that-blame them.

Rich
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I don’t really get the Lurie attraction. He’s smart sure, but very condescending. I’ve heard him a lot the last couple of years as I traversed I-5. Not the worst, but I don’t get the all Marty all the time stuff…

Otis Byrd III
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I think a lot of Marty Lurie’s popularity has to do with the Giants success in 2010. He came to KNBR in 2010, and even though he was new at the time, I think a lot of people liked his longer Giants pre and postgame shows, and he eventually took over the Giants pre and postgame shows in 2010, even though Mychael Urban was still at KNBR at the time with his Giants pre and postgame shows, which weren’t as long. When Urban’s CSN Bay Area duties with the Giants increased later on in the 2010 season, his show on… Read more »
Stan
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I might have mentioned this before..but I saw it as a running joke that Marty would try to invite himself over to the Radnich home. Every single time Marty said he would like have dinner at Raddys home..Radnich just changed the subject…brushed Marty off.
To this day-2 years later..I don’t think he as much as had lunch with Radnich.

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P-Coon is an empty chair, who is unable to stay on point unless it is about the SEC. Marty sells the airtime himself, so guess who works for whom? P-Coon is lucky to have a job in the industry at all.

Stan
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There is without a doubt a bug to the software BASG..I cant find p-ews comment on the blog ..even if he or she is on recent comments about p -con.
It might be something to complain about to who sold you the new platform.

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KNBR will go with the cheapest on air talent possible. Case in point Fitz (paid by the warriors) and Brooks(must have pictures) and Byrrrrrnsie taking over for Ralph. Lurie works for free, pulls in his own advertising, and the schmucks in Atlanta don’t have to worry about him ruffling any feathers.

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If Marty says “I” or “g’head” or “the ball club” or “All right, Okay” one more time, I will not hear it…because as soon as I happen to turn on any pre or post game show with him on…off the radio goes.  KNBR got rid of Ralph (great decision) and Damon “Jim Rome wannabe” Bruce.  The perfect trifecta would be ax Marty and bring back anyone–maybe it has been long enough for Tony Bruno to pull off a Larry Krueger and be given a second chance.

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P-Con (besides having one the worst voices for radio, right there with Scott Farrell or Ralph Barbierie) isn’t

StevenSullivan
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P-Con (besides having one the worst voices for radio, right there with Scott Farrell or Ralph Barbierie) isn’t

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