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Nightengale on Giants: “Starting left fielder isn’t on that team yet”

It’s the middle of January and the San Francisco Giants have only signed one new player to a major league contract. Sure, it’s a pretty important player in closer Mark Melancon, but this has been one of the quietest offseasons in quite some time.

The Oakland A’s, to make a comparison, have signed three players to major league contracts (Trevor Plouffe, Rajai Davis and Matt Joyce). They’ll make roughly the same amount combined as Melancon this year, but a lot of us expected the Giants to be more active than this.

There’s always the trade market, but that’s been quiet as well. But in a Tuesday night KNBR segment with Ray Woodson, USA Today’s Bob Nightengale said we should expect to see some action between now and Opening Day.

“The guy who’s still out there is Jay Bruce. The Mets are trying to unload him. The Giants explored a trade for him during the trade deadline and backed off, rather have a right-handed bat. If they’re going to give him away and even eat some of the salary, I think the Giants have to take a look at him. I think with the moves they made last year and now you have Mark Melancon as the closer, Matt Moore for an entire season, I think the Giants will be on the prowl all Spring Training to see what they can get. I think their starting left fielder isn’t on that team yet.”

Bruce certainly looks the part. He’s killed the Giants on multiple occasions with towering home runs at AT&T Park. He’s also a rare slugger who wants to play in San Francisco, according to Nightengale.

“He didn’t want to go to New York, he wanted to go to San Francisco and, I forget, maybe down in Texas. He really wanted to play for Bruce Bochy. I think he really struggled in New York, coming from Cincinnati, a really small market to the spotlight there. He was never comfortable. So I think if the Giants traded for this guy, he’s going to hit 30 home runs, drive in over 90 and be exactly what they want. Dusty Baker, when he was with the Reds, absolutely loved this guy.”

However, Grant Brisbee listed several reasons for the Giants to avoid Bruce.

  • The Giants already have four left-handed hitters in their everyday lineup.
  • He has a .235 average and .295 OBP over the last three seasons.
  • My favorite: “Bruce isn’t very good, see.”

But the dingers! Oh man, the dingers. And he doesn’t turn 30 until April. I can see the Giants taking a flier on Bruce, hoping he turns into the player he was from age 23-26, when he averaged 3.5 WAR per season, made two All-Star teams, and finished 10th in the MVP voting twice. But three down years in a row is cause for concern, even with all of those sweet, sweet dingers, which we miss around here since the Giants were the only team in all of baseball to not have a single 20-homer guy in a homer-heavy year.

How heavy? 111 guys hit at least 20. The league average per 600 plate appearances was 18. Brandon Belt led the Giants with 17. But is Bruce a better option than Mac Williamson or Jarrett Parker? The Giants wouldn’t admit it publicly, but they probably think so.

And yes, I said “or” instead of “and,” because we can’t assume a platoon for those two. If Hunter Pence gets injured again — and who’d bet against that at this point — we’re looking at an everyday lineup with Williamson AND Parker at the corner outfield positions for a decent chunk of the season.

The Giants will probably wait a while, both to see how Williamson and Parker fare in the Cactus League and whether the Detroit’s price comes down for J.D. Martinez. And Mets GM Sandy Alderson recently backed off his stance that they needed Bruce’s salary ($13 million) off the books, saying they could go into Spring Training with him on the roster. That could also be posturing, of course.

Martinez is set to make $11,750,000 in 2017, by the way. And the Giants are in the luxury tax, which means acquiring Bruce at his full salary would effectively mean they’d be spending an extra $19.5 million. It would make Martinez an $18 million player.

Alex Pavlovic wrote this a little over a month ago:

The Giants checked in on Detroit’s J.D. Martinez, but Evans said any deal for Martinez or a similar veteran (Jay Bruce, who makes $13 million, is among those available) would have to include a significant salary being sent back to the other team to balance the books. It’s difficult to find the player who could be sent to a team like Detroit and balance out much of the incoming salary. Martinez is scheduled to make $11.75 million next year. The Giants have eight players making at least $11 million in 2017, but all but Matt Cain are locked into key roles. The three other players who could eat up a chunk of that salary — Brandon Crawford, Brandon Belt and Matt Moore — are franchise building blocks.

That’s why I’m hesitant to agree with Nightengale’s thoughts on the Giants acquiring a left fielder. And not just because he wrote this before the 2012 World Series:

The Tigers are sorry to ruin the ending to this charming show, but the Giants’ season is over.

Detroit will win the World Series in five games.

It’s a little surprising to see the Giants add just one significant piece to a team that hasn’t won the division since 2012, especially since (1) the Dodgers still look strong and (2) prices for everything they sell at the Giants’ sold out ballpark aren’t exactly low. The Giants offseason, if it truly is over, will fuel about 200 hours of Larry Krueger rants over the coming months. Then if you factor in that Buster Posey will enter the 2017 season as a 30-year-old, it sure seems like the time to load up would be this year.

However, the Giants are already a top-five payroll team and the luxury tax isn’t getting any less punitive in the coming years. So it’s definitely possible they’ll stand pat, pray for good health and more power from their current set of outfielders, and wait until the trade deadline to make a move if they absolutely have to.

On the other hand, it’s really, really easy to envision Bruce in a Giants uniform. Almost as easy as picturing a frustrated Bochy as he takes his cap off and runs his hand through his hair during the second inning of a bad Matt Cain start this April. So maybe Nightengale is onto something.

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BASportsGuy I hope so bc Mac or parker shouldn’t be starting for a team with serious goals of wanting a winning season they are journeymen

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Desmond1battle BASportsGuy They’ve Won With Blanco Out There…

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BASportsGuy and reading your article not only pence but span is hardly durable could see a lot of mac gorkys and parker that’s awful

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy well i don’t buy one iota either parker or Williamson have the upside of 2012 or even 14 Blanco sorry I’d rather have

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy Blanco or pagan today out there over them two late 20 future journeyman

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Angel Pagan is still a free agent …

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BASportsGuy trade or FA?

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BASportsGuy rather have him in lf over the current platoon plan kinda kidding but for so called prospects they aren’t much younger

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BASportsGuy I like Bruce.

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BASportsGuy you shut your mouth U0001f62d

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BASportsGuy Larry Bonds,

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BASportsGuy Bryce Harper obviously

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BASportsGuy Parker/Willamson over Pagan.

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BASportsGuy Ryan Braun!!!

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BASportsGuy please no!

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BASportsGuy do you think if someone like Austin Slater will have a good spring training (presume he’s invited) would have shot at LF?

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BASportsGuy they can’t afford one

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Desmond1battle BASportsGuy I’d Much Rather Have Parker/Williamson Over Blanco/Pagan Plus Any Other Outfielder Available

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy well you’re likely to get your wish they just aren’t very talented or young and I doubt giants are really high

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy on them either they just are cheap and they don’t value left field but I guarantee they are more excited about

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy Slater Reynolds and Quinn!

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy but neither are projected to have bigger win shares then Blanco or pagan who’s unsigned for what its worth Parker

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy has a equal projected war as Jay Bruce but they are all way below average talents and don’t give me Duvall that’s a

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy outlier more then anything they are more Gary Brown then Adam Duvall

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BASportsGuy I’d take Pagan over Williamson & Parker DDS

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BASportsGuy may he still be one

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Desmond1battle BASportsGuy Which Is Exactly Why They Aint Signing No Agents To Long Term Deals

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy it’s not even that lame platoon that bothers me it’s that with span and pence getting old and injury prone both will

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy start a lot with gorkys! A outfield of mac gorkys and parker dreadful man no other way to describe it worst in mlb

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Desmond1battle BASportsGuy Mac And Gorkys Played Well Last Year.. But Ok, Don’t Watch Then

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy you are a easy to please fan i get it makes watching easier to handle

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Desmond1battle BASportsGuy I’m A Mac Fan, So Yeah

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy not like I’m rooting against him or parker I just defer to those who get paid to have an opinion who don’t see much

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy upside in them ! And if we could be sure span and pence are healthy most of the year a platoon or one of them

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy seizing the job is doable but you’re way to easily satisfied if you’d be happy with a of of mac gorkys and parker

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy despite you being fine with their play none of them project to be league average players but I’ll say if any would

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy surprise and be ok I’d bet and hope it to be mac Williamson

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Desmond1battle BASportsGuy Of Course I Wouldn’t Be Happy If That Was The Outfield, If Pence And Span Stay Healthy, I See No Reason Why

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Desmond1battle BASportsGuy The Giants Wouldn’t Be Able To Compete The For The Championship

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy fair enough and I can’t complain to much giants spend as much as anyone besides yanks cubs and sox just at lot has

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy to go right to have a chance and I think a lot of fans underestimate how good the dodgers will be let alone cubs

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy dodgers have so much room for internal improvement compared to giants it’s scary but if everything goes great giants

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy will compete and that’s all you can ask for

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Desmond1battle BASportsGuy Dodgers Don’t Win The Division Last Year If Giants Had A Reliable Bullpen

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy maybe but they did set the record for most guys on the dl and half the year without Kershaw showed they have depth

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy every team would be envy of ! Full year our of urias too who I sadly think is the best young pitcher since thor

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BASportsGuy Giants haven’t had a viable Opening Day LFer since Bonds. Which 1st baseman will be out there this year??

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Desmond1battle BASportsGuy Yeah I Know

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JTatum94 BASportsGuy either now or later I think giants will need some kind of upgrades counting cubs dodgers nats mets giants and cards

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