San Francisco Giants fans woke up this morning to some interesting news:
For those paying attention to Ramirez’s recovery timeline as reported yesterday, this development puts Ramirez’s injury in the “worst-case scenario” zone. And for many San Francisco Giants fans, this development is cause for celebration and, of course, lots and lots of jokes. However, there are reasons to pause before outwardly expressing this completely normal reaction, and not because we should feel sympathy toward a fellow human who’s experiencing physical pain. Ramirez’s thumb will be fine.
This isn’t a post about jinxes, either. Just because you pour champagne all over yourself on a street corner while dancing around a Ramirez jersey that’s on fire doesn’t mean players on your favorite team are more likely to get hurt. Injuries often don’t make sense, and they are never the result of karma, jinxing, or other such nonsense. This post is about two other reasons why Giants fans should take this injury in stride, act like they’ve been there before, insert your favorite cliche here.
Hell hath no fury like a Dodgers fan scorned
This rivalry has never been as intense or interesting since both teams moved west as it is currently. Giants vs. Dodgers is ahead of Red Sox vs. Yankees in terms of sheer baseball relevancy (just don’t tell the folks in Bristol, they’ll call you a “damn liahhh”). It’s true — the Giants are winning championships and the Dodgers are the team that’s going to allow Scott Boras to buy his own island someday (if he hasn’t already). Meanwhile, the Red Sox blew up a good thing and the Yankees have wilted since George Steinbrenner passed away.
Take an ascending traditional and regional rivalry, then add all the different ways strangers can now razz each other on their phones and computers. The more Giants fans take advantage of the Dodgers’ early season misfortune, the worse they’re going to get it later in the year when certain Giants get hurt. Do you really want to rile Dodgers fans up, only to see their reaction after Jeremy Affeldt’s foot gets crushed under the wheel of his son’s tricycle?
(I’m just trying to cut down on my future annoyance levels in the future, people. I can’t just up and quit Twitter and Facebook on a whim.)
Be better than the AZ Snakepit guy
Less than 24 hours after Buster Posey was left in a heap of screaming, shattered-ankle mess, a TRU FAN named Jim McLennan wrote a post titled, “Buster Posey and Shadenfruede” for SB Nation’s D-Backs site. If you don’t want to give this post any pageviews, here’s a sampling:
But, let’s be brutally honest. While on one level, it’s a terrible thing, there’s a dark corner of just about every non-Giant fan which woke up this morning, read that Posey could be out for the season and gave a little fist-pump. Because their team’s chances of dethroning the Giants as World Series champions just got a little bit better.
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“There will never be a perfect storm like this again,” wrote Grant Brisbee. “Posey is a guy who helped break an organizational drought for hitters and championships, he played a position that the fans were repeatedly told was almost impossible to do well, and he is possibly the most likable personality on the team, combining perfect amounts of seriousness and charm in a goofy clubhouse.” To which I reply, succinctly: “Suck it, Giants fans. Suck it long. And suck it hard.” I didn’t notice an angst-ridden piece from Brisbee when divisional rival Jorge de la Rosa was lost for the year, So don’t expect any sympathy when you lose your young stud.
There’s a huge impact gap between losing Posey for the last four-plus months of the season and losing Ramirez for eight weeks, but there is also a difference between thinking, “Well, that’s a fortunate turn of events for my favorite team,” and replying loudly (and succinctly), “Suck it, Dodgers fans. Suck it long. And suck it hard.” For those looking for an excuse to gloat, wait until the first series of the season at Chavez Ravine if the Giants take two of three.
If part of the unwritten rule book for fans states, “Cheering for injuries, regardless of opponent, is implicitly forbidden unless the injury is to said athlete’s pride,” then maybe it’s time to take post-injury snark off the table as well. Yes, even “goggles” jokes. There are so many different things one can make fun of when it comes to the Dodgers that have nothing to do with tendons, bones or ligaments … Don Mattingly’s working knowledge of the actual rulebook, for instance.
One last thing that has nothing to do with the Giants or Dodgers: I’ve also seen some who are almost gleeful that Ramirez’s injury took place during the World Baseball Classic. The attendance for the semifinals and final game was spotty at AT&T Park. (A mid-March series in San Francisco was cold, wet and overrun by seagulls … WHO KNEW???). But really, what’s the harm in the WBC? Players get hurt in Spring Training all the time, and nobody wants to cancel that. The WBC didn’t rule my days this time around (I attended one game at Chase Field, Ryan Vogelsong’s start against Team Italy, but I wasn’t about to sit in the rain), but I liked the chance to see the different ways people play and watch baseball in high definition, as opposed to grainy YouTube footage. I hope the WBC stays around, even if Team USA doesn’t inspire people in this country.














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I'm a firm believer in karma, and rooting for Ramirez' injury means one of our starters could go on the shelf. I'm silently smiling about this, but I don't say anything to anyone. Hell, what about Pablo's elbow ? That could be devastating to the Giants offense. Better to not woof about Hanley's thumb.
I think Krueger was joking when he did that, but yeah, it was bad taste. You don't want players to injured, even if they are on the Dodgers. I agree with Jonegiantz that I would much rather the Giants beat the Dodgers with all their guys healthy, so that people won't be saying that the Giants beat a depleted Dodgers squad and diminish a Giants victory over them. Plus, it's bad karma to want opposing players to be hurt or to cheer on injuries to opposing players. It kind of funny how it was awkward silence when Krueger did that too. Even Gary couldn't stick up for Krueger on that one. About the Saints thing, yeah, that was ironic how Krueger was talking/somewhat joking about the 49ers taking out Brees the week of that Saints-49ers playoff game last year, and then the news about bountygate came out weeks later, and Krueger made no reference of wanting the 49ers to take out Brees and the connection to bountygate. I wonder if that ever crossed his mind. But yeah, bad taste by Krueger. Even though he said he doesn't like this term but, he's better than that.
and its not a one time deal, i think Krueger was gloating & cheering the Ramirez injury for several shows.
Larry Kreuger openly gloated repeatedly that Ramirez was hurt . But he's the same guy who wished the 49ers would hurt Drew Bree's out of the game in 2011-12's playoff. A week later,bountygate broke out and he went silent. But,he's back to being filled with glee over something that could ruin a career. And he's mad at local writers over his 2005 manifesto? Oh,well..his brain dead theory and the republicans who supported that thinking were shut up by the WBC win for the DR!.
Even though this is huge for the Giants, it's not good that Hanley is out. You hate to see players get injured. It seemed like his injury looked harmless. So, will the Dodgers be going with Juan Uribe or Cruz at 3rd base until Hanley comes back? But yeah, I also don't root for injuries even though this is huge for the Giants.
Considering I traded Han Ram for Zimmerman the day before the injury occurred in my fantasy league, I am pretty happy. The fact that he was hurt at AT&T adds insult to injury for Dodger fans... "there's magic inside" ;)
No, no gloating. I'd rather play and beat the Dodgers at full strength than hear injury excuses. And besides, i was/am looking forward to the renewal of the rivalry in terms of the quality of the dodgers. Hey, we're good! We won 2 of the last 3 WS! Bring em on!
Completely agree. You never root for an injury and you don't pile on. Granted if i got into it with any of the Dodger's fans I know then I will use that as a salvo to fire off at them if the Dodgers start out less than stellar. But definitely not going out of my way to tell anyone to suck anything.
Agree for the most part, but I think gloating and razzing is ok for Giants fans to do when a Dodger gets injured. As long as it doesn't devolve into a physical beating a la Bryan Stow, it's acceptable. Living in L.A. like I have on/off last 4 years and attend games at Chavez Latrine as I do, you get a much different perspective on the rivalry. I can't describe how bad Dodgers fans are...the beachballs, the frivolity, the apathy. Ethier struck out at a Dodger game and I yelled "you're washed up Ethier!" and no one even looked at me, had a differing opinion, nothing. Just kept staring at cell phones and munching popcorn. So, in conclusion, I hope it's 8 weeks for Hanley, and Greinke misses more than game 2 of the season. Bring it on and go Giants.