A guy went to Candlestick Park yesterday wearing a Dallas Cowboys jersey. Even though the Cowboys weren’t playing in San Francisco that day, he wasn’t breaking any rules set forth by our legal system, the San Francisco 49ers or the NFL.
That Cowboys jersey was reportedly enough to rile up two psychopaths, however.
From KTVU:
The victim, a 27-year-old man, was standing on Harney Way approximately 500 yards west of Jamestown Road around 1:30 p.m. with a group of five friends when the two suspects approached, according to Sgt. Michael Andraychak.
The suspects began taunting the victim about sports teams. The stabbing victim was wearing a Dallas Cowboys T-shirt, according to Suzy Barrera, a friend of the victim.
“It was just trash talking about sports,” Barrera said. “The men thought it would be fun to antagonize my friend,” Barrera added.
Then one of the two suspects pulled out a knife and stabbed the victim in the torso, causing life threatening injuries, Andraychak said.
Sigh…
Stuck in traffic
I showed up late to the game because it took about 90 minutes longer than I figured to meet and pick up my wife at the end of the half marathon she ran in the morning that ended at Ocean Beach. So I took 3rd Street in order to avoid the highway and *hopefully* find a spot where I wouldn’t have to pay $30 (or more) to park my car in some dirt lot a mile away from Candlestick.
After driving around and coming up empty, I gave up on free parking and found myself on Jamestown. I followed the road into the loop around the perimeter of Candlestick, which was moving at about 1 or 2 mph. I was behind a older model black Honda Civic coupe, which was driven by a girl who didn’t seem to be paying a lot of attention (translation: she consistently left over a car’s length in front of her as we inched along, so people kept cutting in front of her).
Soon I figured out why she seemed out of it — the guy in the passenger’s seat was pounding domestic beers and, from time to time, passing his beer over to her so she could get a chug or two. Young love, nothing like it.
We were in the far right lane. To our right, in a grassy park area, there were several groups of tailgaters. I saw the guy in the passenger’s seat of the Civic yell something to a guy hanging out with a group of 49ers fans, presumably because the man — who responded by gesturing and shouting back at the guy in the Civic — was wearing a Raiders jersey. There were a few things I didn’t know about this situation:
- Whether or not the Raiders fan knew that his team had just fallen behind 20-13 on an Asante Samuel pick-6 seconds earlier (he seemed blissfully drunk/ignorant).
- What exactly was said between Open Container Guy (which, coincidentally, was the name of a former BASG contributor until he went away for 5-to-10 years) and the Raiders fan.
- If the red bandana the Raiders fan was wearing under his hat had anything to do with the drive-by verbal confrontation.
All I knew was that I REALLY didn’t want to be a captive witness to a fight between these two, so I felt very relieved when I heard the Raiders fan yell, “Nah, nah, ain’t worth it! Ain’t worth it!”
We inched away, I found a $30 spot about 1.5 miles away from the stadium, and I totally forgot about the incident until hearing about yesterday afternoon’s stabbing … which took place about an hour later.
Not just a parking lot problem
I really need to get some binoculars to watch games from the Candlestick Park press box. Not because I can’t see the field, but because I miss all the great fights! I’m kidding, but the guy next to me had his binoculars out to get a better view of a brawl during the middle of the game in the upper deck around Sec. 15 or 17. Apparently one of the fighters tried to throw a couple punches at a cop, with decidedly unfortunate results for the punch-thrower.
After the game, the image I’ll remember while standing on the field was watching Eli Manning and the rest of the Giants run to the tunnel under a chorus of loud “Let’s Go Giants” cheers from hundreds of proud, obnoxious New York fans. That’s the thing about NFL football — the trash-talking is constant and can go overboard. But why does it have to be this way at Candlestick, while places like Lambeau Field are known for fans who also double as gracious hosts?
Is it the dilapidated facility? The neighborhood? A group of younger 49ers fans who never experienced success for their favorite football team while growing up?
There is a violence problem at other NFL stadiums, clearly. But I only attend games at The Stick these days, and since I’ll be going to Thursday night’s game against Seattle as a fan with some high school buddies, this environment is more than a tad worrisome. I won’t be wearing a Seahawks, Giants, Raiders or Cowboys jersey on Thursday night, but there’s something wrong if someone who chooses to do so can’t feel safe.















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This was completely uncalled for. I know its the Bay Area and the Raiders/49ers fans are really heated up there. I'm down here in Washington, DC/Baltimore and I don't think it gets nearly as bad as over on California. I was even considering going on over at a Ravens game in December but antics like this keep me away. Its most misunderstandings due to the alcohol but god, when you see someone wearing a jersey for an opposing team at at a visiting stadium, look the hell out. I read about the undercover cops they had at the NFC Championship Game last year. Its really scary that they have to stoop this low in order to make it a safe environment at the actual stadiums. People at home just watch by the millions and they say attendence is down for a reason. Wonder why? I'm just as shocked at the the Dodgers/Giants fan violence at the ballparks on you're side of the coast. sheesh.
Its really as simple as some fans, gangbangers have adopted the color red and are 'Nortenos". Its pretty sad since these guys give true fans a bad name. Granted, I'm surte every stadium has their problems but this hits close to home. I'm a Raider fan and the games I've been to have been pretty standard, friendly non-violent trash talking.
I had Raiders season tickets from 1995 to about 2008; the team was so crappy I finally gave up my seats, which I loved. The stories I could tell you ... too numerous to mention. Low rent, boorish behavior. I never felt like I was going to get punched, but it just wasnt fun. I was listening to an ESPN radio guy talk about going to a Ravens home game; he talked about the culture of fans at NFL games and how it was no fun, watching at home is a more enjoyable game experience, and the league better do something about attending NFL games. He said " If the Ravens were playing in an hour right across the street and you gave me great seats, I wouldn't go" I was at the infamous Raiders/Niners pre-season game at The Stick, attending an upscale 49ers tailgate with some really nice friends. I was shocked by the "thuggish" 49ers fans; neck tattoos, aggressive drunkenness; my wife and I left at halftime and preactically ran to our car. The problem is at all NFL stadiums. Angry people taking it out at football games.
Not to sound like an old man... (I'm only 26)- But I think it's an society issue, too much selfishness and entitlement among my and younger generation. Beer + Idiots = Ruins it for everyone Hopefully that "crowd" won't follow the 49ers to my neighborhood in Santa Clara.
Also, I'd bet 50 bucks that clown wasn't listening to the game on his lady's radio. He'd have either been paying rapt attention, speechless, or in tears during the time in question...that, or perish the thought, he was a total poseur fan. We need to develop a test for folks posing as Raider fans just so they can raise a ruckus.
Yet SFgate has hidden this story. If this happened in Oakland, however...The fact is the 49ers have been adopted by a lot of gangbangers because of their color. The coliseum has become a much safer venue because the Raiders have come down hard on this crap. The 49ers need to do the same.
I think this another underlying reason as to why Jed York is so anxious to get out of Candlestick and in the process jack up prices to unreasonable levels. I was pretty bummed when after laying down a deposit last year I later concluded that I couldn't justify buying season tickets at the new stadium. But every time we hear about an incident like this one, it actually makes me appreciate that high prices. I know it won't completely solve the problem, but pricing out people who have nothing to lose is a good start. When the majority of people who can afford the tickets have careers, not jobs, families to look out for and a reason to not wake up in jail the next day, I think much of the violence will subside. Obviously they won't weed out all the idiots. I expect tailgating will be dramaticaly different in Santa Clara than at the Stick as well, starting with less space to do so entirely.
Should there be more cops around? Even if just to catch the obvious DUIs, like the chick you followed into the parking lot? That doesn't resolve the conduct issue, though. Why are Bay Area fans seeming more combative? I guess I hope the new stadium will help with these issues, but that's a few years away, yet. :(
I like this idea...maybe if law enforcement runs a random shock and awe operation at the stadium, it'll develop a "No-BS" operation. For example, I got busted by an undercover cop at Disneyland for having a little pocketknife on my person. This guy looked just like a tourist and hid his ID inside a park map so my wife and kids thought he was asking me for directions. It was amazing. I would never attempt any funny stuff at Disneyland. They are ON IT. Maybe the Stick needs a similar rep. What sucks is the majority of us lose privacy because of a belligerent and dangerous few.
The availability of tickets is a bit of a concern too - too many brokers have Stick tickets and have to sell them, unfortunately they go to Likes To Fight Guy, Opponents fans and even worse, bandwagon fans.... there are some moronic fans there for sure
Just a thought...what if drunks got tossed? What if liquor sales were banned entirely? Would folks stop going to games? I don't like banning things, but it seems like alcohol is the common denominator in event violence. I know officials in Europe have taken crazy measures to discourage soccer hooliganism, and maybe its time to do the same here.