The 36-year marriage between the Golden State Warriors and KNBR might be coming to an end, a source told BASG. Citing irreconcilable differences, the Warriors are flirting with a move to 95.7 The Game, KNBR’s rival station.
According to the source, the Warriors are “highly pissed” at KNBR for “having Brian Sabean on doing a live interview when the Warriors were making their pick last Thursday, not having the ability to take calls after the draft, (and) having games on KNBR-1050 most of the time.”
The Warriors’ contract with KNBR expired in June, but KNBR has still been operating as the Warriors’ flagship station while the Warriors contemplate their next move. The team is expected a decision within a week or two.
Of course, landing the Warriors would be a great boon to 95.7 The Game, who have been desperately trying to gain market share. As of last May, The Game was still trailing KNBR’s sister station, KNBR-1050, in listeners.
This wouldn’t be the first time The Game scored a victory over KNBR. In March, The Game secured the rights to air the NCAA’s March Madness, while also securing exclusive Bay Area rights to NFL Games in 2012 and beyond.
Whether or not securing rights to the Warriors would move the needle for The Game is yet to be seen. But KNBR has weathered a number of storms in the past few months, including the firing their most beloved host, Ralph Barbieri.
I don't think signal strength will deter GSW from going to 957. KNBR airs a good amount of their games on 1050, and that signal is no better than 957. 680 is the flamethrower, but GSW games aren't always aired on that station. However, I think it would be a mistake for them to go to 957. Say what you want about KNBR, but they still hold more clout than 957.
It'd be great if they moved and we could get rid of Fitz on KNBR 680 at lunch. That's reason enough alone to root for a Warrior move to the game!
"This wouldn’t be the first time The Game scored a victory over KNBR. In March, The Game secured the rights to air the NCAA’s March Madness, while also securing exclusive Bay Area rights to NFL Games in 2012 and beyond." ... and that sucked because every time I wanted to listen to an NCAA tournament game, all I got was A's pre-season baseball! It seemed that alot of the games from the first two weekends were pre-empted by preseason baseball. At least when KNBR had the tournament, they could move the games to 1050 while 680 aired the Giants. I'm guessing the same thing (pre-empting the NFL for the A's) is going to happen for the first month or so of the NFL season too... boo!
Seeing that the only guy I can listen to on a regular basis is Townsend, this would be a bummer move for me. I could not care less about the pro basketball, but I know they have tons of fans. I just don't know if this is a beneficial move without a second frequency for roll over as was stated earlier. 98.5 is the Sharks flagship and may times the Sharks and Warriors play at the same time. If you throw the A's on top of that around April, it would be a nightmare.
Speaking of radio...Ted Nugent spoke again. This time he said the country would have been better off if the South had won the Civil War. " Smaller government " he claimed. Yeah,them slaves didn't have red tape stopping them from running away. They was lynched. Nugent,another " I love my country,but hate 98% of the people in it" Repub..
How strange would it be to later learn Lacob,didn't like that first Radnich teased him for hiring his son,and then later Kreuger ripped Lacobs kid as not qualified for the front office after the Monta trade? No wonder Krueger failed at sales...
The Warriors have been looking to move for years. They don't like that there is no "midnight replay" like the giants and Niners get- and all of their road games are on 1050. Among countless other issues. Wouldn't shock me if the Warriors went to the game- and if they did, they would take a very loyal fan base with them. Board Ops at KNBR don't like running games because they use a really old system called "Skyview" that is filled with glitches. No Doubt they would prefer beging on KBLX to KNBR (KTCT) 1050 if there was a conflict with another sport. Hopefully, that would mean no more Fitz.
Also good work on the part of BASG. Here it is Saturday night and the marvel of journalism intergrity (aka the Chronicle) has no word of this move. Why? Don't want to offend the management at KNBR. The local newspaper does not want to jepordize future radio apperances.
Well, can anyone blame the Warriors management? Who in their right mind would appreciate being on 1050? Radio's Siberia. For too long the Warriors have been treated like second class citizens at KNBR. The only surprise here, this why wasn't this move made years ago.
Even though moving to 95.7 would probably be better for the Warriors, I don't think it would be a good move, mainly for some of the concerns that have already been stated. 95.7's signal is not as strong as KNBR's, and fans in certain parts of the Bay Area, might be screwed out of listening to a Warrior game. Also, as has been stated, what will happen in March, April, and May should the Warriors make the playoffs in May, if the Warriors and A's games overlap? The Warriors would basically run into the same problem they run into now. The Warrior game would probably just be moved to the sister station of 95.7, which is the station that does the Sharks games I think. I'm blanking on the station right now.... So moving the Warriors to 95.7 would be good for 95.7 and the Warriors to some extent, but they would be in the same position they are in now with KNBR when Giants season starts, when A's season starts on 95.7, and they take a back seat to the A's. The A's to 95.7 are basically like the Giants to KNBR, at least for right now. I understand the Warriors problems with KNBR though. No one wants to be treated like a 2nd fiddle. I don't get why the Warriors road games on the East Coast and Midwest, have to be on 1050. No offense to the Razor and Mr. T at the time, but was that show that important, that they had to move the early start Warrior road game, to 1050? That was a slap in the face to the Warriors, and will be a slap in the face to the Warriors, if Mr. T's show is on 680 and the early start time Warrior game in on 1050 next NBA season. I think if the Warriors do stay on KNBR, KNBR needs to have most of, if not all of the Warrior games on 680, until Giants season starts, and then you put the Warrior games on 1050, if the start of the Warrior game conflicts with a Giants game in April and May. Also, if KNBR loses the Warriors, that could be a blow for KNBR. Yes, KNBR has weathered the storm on Ralph's departure, but losing the Warriors who are very popular here in the Bay Area, could be a blow. Plus, what are people on KNBR going to listen to in the winter, if the Warriors are playing n 95.7? Yes, KNBR will probably have their normal programming, but some of the audience might be lost, because a lot of the people will probably be listening to the Warrior game on 95.7. We'll see. Very interesting stuff, but you can't blame the Warriors for wanting to make the move to 95.7
A lot of fans have a hard time separating the old Cohan regime from this one. The NBA isn't the MLB where you buy a playoff contending team in the offseason unless you are one of four markets. It is a slow and incremental process to rebuild a franchise from the top down in the NBA.
Sabean's regular segment is on Thursday's. Why would KNBR preempt that for a draft pick? NBA basketball doesn't move the needle on radio. If the W's want more attention make the damn playoffs!!
Good for the Warriors. The Warriors have been relegated to third class status on KNBR and most of their games were broadcast on 1050 last year. Also, Tolbert is the only one who gives a smart unbiased NBA perective on the station. Fitzgerald knows the game but is a stooge for the team. Of course this could also be a negotiating ploy by the Warriors to get more attention from 680.
Hopefully, Lacob will make the switch. I hate KNBR and their obnoxious attitude. I think the 49ers are thinking of moving out too.
That would be great- but it would never happen. KNBR had already signed Eric Davis up to do PXP for the 49ers before he signed with the game, they couldn't go back on it and they needed someone to replaceGary "multiple orgasms" Plummer- but they would never let 2 of their staples go work for a competitor if the warriors move. Exclusive contracts, Flemming also has obligations to Stanford and the Pac-12 that would conflict- but I do think that would make a good pair, I think Tolbert might be a little bit negative compared to Jim Barnett (whom I actually really enjoy).
That actually wouldn't be too bad. Dave Flemming can call basketball games, as we see during college basketball season when he calls college basketball games for ESPN, mainly WCC (West Coast Conference) games. Dave Flemming also called a couple of Warrior games back in the '09-'10 season on KNBR, when Fitz was out, and Tim Roye moved to TV for those games. Flemming did a good job calling those games, considering that was the first time he called an NBA game. Flemming is starting to become a good/great broadcaster. I remember when he started with the Giants back in 2004. Now he's starting to become a national name. He's really come a long way, even though he's been good since he's started with the Giants in 2004. Some people don't/didn't like Dave Flemming for whatever reason, calling Giants games. I don't really know why. He seems like a good guy, he's very knowledgable, and prepared for every game. Tolbert would be a good color analyst to Flemming, especially since Tolbert used to be the color analyst for games on NBC when they carried NBA games, and for ESPN when they first started carrying NBA games. I kind of miss Tolbert on ESPN a little bit. He was the only guy on ESPN at the time that actually knew anything about the Warriors. It's kind of embarrassing to watch a nationally televised Warrior game, and the announcers don't know a darn thing about the Warriors, besides the obvious stuff, and it kind of turns into a broadcast for the Warriors opponent, or they end up talking about the Heat, the Lakers, or the other big market NBA teams that get ratings. The only problems with Flemming pairing up with Tolbert would be, would calling Warrior games interfere with Dave Flemming's Giants duties, once baseball season starts, especially when both seasons overlap, as well as his Stanford football duties during the fall? Also, would he want to give up his ESPN college basketball gig and possibly his Stanford football gig, to call Warrior games on TV? Dave Flemming is going to be a national star, as we are seeing. It would feel like he would be too big for a Warrior gig eventually, even though I'm sure he wouldn't mind doing that. That would be a huge deal for him if he called Giants games and Stanford football games on radio and Warrior games on TV. He would be the next Greg Papa in that regard, as far as calling games for more than one team at one time in the same area. Tolbert seems like he's happy with his show on KNBR, especially now since it's his show. Plus, does he really want to travel with the Warriors full-time? He also seems happy being with family. Maybe if he just called Warriors home games and Warriors West Coast road games or something, that wouldn't be too bad. With all that being said, I think if this happened and Flemming and Tolbert committed to doing a Warriors TV gig, I would say move Jim Barnett to radio with Tim Roye. They can't lose Jim Barnett. Whenever TNT does Warrior games, which is rare, and Barnett does those games on KNBR with Roye, they both have good chemistry together, and you can learn basketball from the both of them calling a game together, like you can with Fitz and Barnett calling Warrior games on TV. But yes, this is a good idea, but you would have to wonder if Flemming would be willing to do it because of his Giants, Stanford football, and ESPN duties, and if Tolbert would be willing to do it because of his KNBR duties, and him wanting to be with his family.
OK , no fitz on KNBR , good point, make the switch. Bet he'd end up on the game if they did move. LOL
No word? Maybe because it's not true or confirmed! You can't print every rumor in a paper, you can digit it on a blog, but like newspapers, you can't believe everything you read - be it print or blogs. Blogs are subject to the same pitfalls as a paper- it can be USED to manipulate public opinion, negotiations and perception - all to the leakers advantage. It really does NOT serve the reader or fans or.....it's just BS to BS about.
1050's ratings are right around the same as the game, and it has a much stronger signal on top of that. This isn't about the where as much as it is the Warriors are PO'd that they're not being treated like the most important thing to KNBR. KNBR is catering to where their money is. The game will gladly cater to the Warriors because they really don't have a lot better things going for them except maybe the A's. KNBR already has a massive apologist on staff and a guy who loves the W's in Tolbert. You think they're going to get much better than that on the Game?
LOL. That won't happen. I don't think Fitz would move to 95.7, even though it's kind of funny to hear his Sleep Train commercials on 95.7, or his voice for when they were doing the U.S. Open commercials on that station earlier this year. If Fitz ever did move to 95.7, I wonder where he would fit in. Maybe with Lund I guess, or he could be Tierney's new co-host. If he was Tierney's new co-host, I don't think that would go well, especially if they both talk about the Warriors. Their arguments would be interesting though. LOL.
If the Warriors want more attention, move to 95.7 The Game!! What words of wisdom came from Sabean's lips that was more important to draft picks that could change the course of a franchise? Couldn't they tape the segment and run it an hour later? Warrior fans deserve better.
As far as sports radio talk, KNBR would actually benefit from the Warriors moving - then they could really be honest and RIP! LOL. Seriously, sometimes counter programming a bad team is preferable than supporting even a pretty decent team - let alone a loser. Topics they could have covered , or given more depth to if they were not on KNBR : 1 Abandoning Oakland 2 Boo night and Rick Barry's great theater 3 monte Ellis sex scandal 4 trading for an injured player ( Bogart) 5 Warriors owning the Dodgers 6 The Mark Jackson sex scandal 7who makes the draft pick in that crowded front office? 8 Larry Riley: Your thoughts? why demoted ahead of schedule? 9 Stephan Cury - Got Ankles? 10 Bedriens- Dorrel Wright wither on the vine. Is it poor coaching? Oh yeah was it DUMB to oust Keith SMART? Move Warriors - things just got better at KNBR.
Does anybody really listen to basketball on the radio unless your stuck at work or traffic! It's not a radio sport like baseball or an event like football.
Yeah, that's true too, and I'd rather watch the games too, but you be surprised by how many people like to listen to the games on the radio. It's good if you are traveling around or running errands at night, and you want to listen to some of the Warrior game at night, and it's cool to listnen to it for a little bit, instead of missing out on it, and just catching the highlights.
Otis My man (been wanting to use that "Animal House" line since you started posting), ; do enjoy your thoughtful prose and responses on all things sports-especially media. But I am not on board with any radio station moves continuing with either Lund (him being absent from Wheelhouse this week and Urban actually sounding good clinched it for me), Tierney (dude sounds like he should be taking my Coppa sandwich order at a No Beach deli, about as much sports knowledge too) or Fitz (the Warriors house organ; if he's not payed by any team in the future, then maybe). BTW pretty funny: slow sports week, BASG on vaca, holiday-ish weekend-place a sports media story on this site and the lines light up as the late Pete Franklin would say!
Agreed. Baseball translates really well because of the pace of the game and it works perfect on the radio. Football works not quite as well, but pretty good since you're only doing one play at a time and the guys calling it have time to break it down from play to play so you get a good idea of what happened. Basketball and hockey are terrible radio sports because they're continuous and its impossible to really do them justice on the radio. Not so say they're aren't some really good radio guys working those sports. The W's call guy and Dan Rusinowski for the Sharks are pretty good at working within the medium. I pretty much never listen to basketball or hockey on the radio unless I have no other choice. As I've already alluded to here, I don't think the W's games are pulling really high ratings, if they were there's no way they'd be pushed to 1050 just for Mr. T
C'mon! Eric Davis is the color analyst and he works for the Game - and your still going to complain! OK Lund on play by play call, Dibber on analysis. LOL I think, with all it's flaws, KNBR really manages to to do a great job on the 49ers. The game is lame.
Thanks Tommy J for the compliment! I appreciate it man!.... Thanks for the Animal House reference as well! Yeah, it is kind of funny how the sports media on this blog, still get the most comments, even through all things you just mentioned (BASG on vacation, slow sports week, 4th of July last week, etc.). It really shows you how we all do care about the sports talk radio here in the Bay Area. I wonder if anyone on KNBR or 95.7 besides Dibley, are reading these comments. I think Damon might read these comments, because he mentions BASG sometimes during his show.
After making the playoffs once in the last 18 years, they need to show improvement on the court before you can say they're on the rise. New ownership has made some good moves, but they've also made some bad ones. While I agree with dumping Monta, the best they could get was a busted center? He could be good if he plays, but that's a really big if. Amnestying Bell while that corpse biedrins collects paychecks while putting up one bucket every two to three games? Not selling curry while that glass ankled dude's stock was high? Sorry, some of these moves scream same old warriors
Your comment implies I like KNBR the way it is. I don't, it really leaves a lot to be desired but I fully understand why they operate the way they do. At the end of the day, they're a business trying maximize their money. Why so many commercials? Cause they have people lining up to pay them. If the game starts moving up in the ratings they'll sell more ad time and do a flip flop on that faster than they did on calling Ralph old and busted the second it wOrked in their favor. When it comes to carrying games and covering teams, they're focused on keeping the five star guys happy because that's really where they get their ratings. If we were to rate the teams in terms of their ratings garnering, there's three five star teams in the giants, 49ers and raiders. The next tiers down is three star teams in the warriors and a's, two stars for the sharks and then one or less for sabercats etc. ultimately if the game wants to hang they need to steal the raiders from live 105. I don't see the 49ers being willing to give up the power of 680 that reaches all the way to SoCal. If warrior games were really garnering ratings, think they'd push them to 1050 for mr T? The answer is in ratings we can't access, but their decisions point to no.
Yes, Warriors are on the rise since change in ownership and KNBR is on the decline since another station has set up shop. Of course they will still own the market shares by a mile, they've had a monopoly for decades. Too bad they've become complacent and satisfied with catering primarily to Giants fans. It shows that they've lost touch with the pulse of the Bay Area sports fan and have no vision of the future. Good luck in keeping up with the younger generation of sports fans. KNBR's act is OLD.
Don't be so smug about KNBR and the G's. KGO used to own the airwave for 20 plus years then Bernie Ward happened and the 49ers left KGO etc..now KGO is in the dumpster. Don't be so sure that KNBR can survive when and if the W's and 49ers leave.
The warriors are on the rise? KNBR is in decline? Last I checked KNBR still owns this market by a mile and the warriors best aspiration is to still be in striking distance of the 8 seed.
Reply to "This is what boggles my mind about warrior fans." Bottom line is that KNBR and the Warriors are not a good match. One is under new management and is on the rise, the other is under old management and is clinging to the listeners who haven't migrated to FM. KNBR doesn't care, nor should they, about a losing franchise like the Warriors. They are all about serving to the bandwagon fan. Why not pair the Warriors with a hungry station like 95.7 that will be there regardless of whether they are winning or losing. Without the Warriors, KNBR could devote even more time to the mighty Giants....that's until they hop on the bandwagon when the Warriors start winning again. It's time for the Warriors to make the move...and please, you can keep Fitz.
This is what boggles my mind about warrior fans. You're mad at KNBR for how they treat you? Get mad at the franchise for making itself so irrelevant that it can be ignored. Blame the franchise that has let KNBR push it around for the last few decades. What KNBR is doing is merely a symptom of what the warriors have done to themselves.
Fans absolutely care, just not the ones that KNBR is targeting apparently. There is an incredibly loyal Warriors fan base that is being ignored. They sell out the Oracle Arena despite their suckage, they made headlines with their passion during the We Believe playoff run, and they understand how important the draft is to a team that is looking for the missing pieces to a winning season. If no one cares on KNBR, then losing the Warriors shouldn't be a big deal.
Why would you think that? Do you work for KNBR? Believe it or not, there are many fans who feel their teams are getting shafted by The Sports Leader.