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What now, Mr. Sabean?

Brian Sabean San Francisco Giants

It’s panic time. Stop it, there’s no time for Joe Panik jokes. Or Joe Panik, according to Tuesday night’s lineup.

The Giants have scored six runs in the last six games, all losses. The Dodgers are picking up steam, and probably Jon Lester. That is, unless the A’s get Lester. In that case the Dodgers would probably end up with Cole Hamels, David Price or Cliff Lee. During the postgame wrap after losing 3-1 to Pittsburgh, Jon Miller expressed fear that fans would turn on the broadcasters due to the team’s shoddy play, and Dave Flemming said he almost quit Twitter over the weekend.

It wasn’t that long ago that both men danced to “Gangnam Style” at Civic Center. Now it’s come to this.

Today the Giants sent Adam Duvall to Fresno, admitted for the fourth time in two years that Tony Abreu isn’t the answer, and brought up Juan Perez and Travis Ishikawa to improve their offense. In other words, they ordered a double cheeseburger, large fries, chicken fingers and a diet cola and told everyone they were dieting. The only transaction that could better express the Kardashianesque shallowness of this farm system would involve bringing back Fred Lewis, John Bowker and Eugenio Velez.

Angel Pagan Brian SabeanBuster Posey had three singles on Tuesday. The rest of the team combined for three hits and 13 strikeouts. Can’t score, can’t win at home. Can’t score at home, can’t win. That’s a bummer combination, whether you’re talking about sports or real life.

The feelings that follow a drubbing like tonight’s can only lead Brian Sabean to one of two conclusions. Either it’s time to get some real help, NOW (as in, before first pitch on Wednesday) … or it’s time to sell-sell-sell.

They weren’t sellers when they had a five-game losing streak and trailed the Dodgers by 11 games on July 31. They’re only three games back now, they just traded for Jake Peavy, and they’ll average 41,000 fans per game the rest of the way. They aren’t going to unload Pablo Sandoval, Tim Hudson, Jeremy Affeldt, Javier Lopez or Santiago Casilla now. Unless, for the very first time, the executive committee orders Sabean to acquire as many minor league position players as possible in the next few days.

There’s a better chance we see Brett Pill coming through that door tomorrow. No, really. If Ishikawa can strike out to end a game on July 29, 2014,Pill could return at any time in the next five years and it wouldn’t surprise anyone.

Even if Brandon Belt and Angel Pagan are back in the lineup by next week, the Giants still need a second baseman (at least Dan Uggla didn’t make any errors tonight) and another outfielder.

So when you hear about Emilio Bonifacio and Chris Denorfia bumping into each other in the Giants clubhouse tomorrow, or Asdrubal Cabrera placing an order with Joe Day for a customized scooter, just know that it came from a late night of Sabean working the phones. Because as upset as the season ticket-holders, KNBR callers, normal fans, announcers, players, coaches and manager are about this recent stretch of cadaverous baseball, the general manager is even angrier tonight.

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AdrianReynolds
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Heard some choice curse words from Morse and a nice dugout tantrum from Uggs-la…throwing bats, helmet, etc, and a concerned glance from Wotus.

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Sabean will make some dumb move, for a player past his prime, and the Giants will keep spiraling, and the Dodgers will win the NL pennant, then they will run into the A’s, who will break their hearts in game 7 at O.Co. You’re all welcome.

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What you see is what you will get for several years . Larry Baer said publicly recently: the calvary is not coming. Baer basically told the fans to shut up and keep buying garlic fries. Unless the dumpster pickups work out like it did in 2010 and 2012, this is it. This is the team going forward.

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Mr. Fragile (aka Mr. Glass) Angel Pagan has kill the #SFGiants for another year.  They need a real lead off man CF that will not sit when they have a hang nail.  Everyone plays hurt.

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Ha ha! So well put.

a long time fan
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I would like to know how many errors have the giants this far in the season every game I have watched this year the in filed  has been horrible. it is time to say play right or get out.

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Three out of eight starters are out, injured, plus a starter. Reality bites.
If Botchy wasn’t their manager, they would have zero rings and be 20 games out now.
Right- the Botchy era Giants have out-produced their talent level .
If he was the Dodgers manager they would have clinched already – and if Mattingly was the Giants manager, he would have already been run out of town.
If your a real baseball fan, stayed tuned! If your a bandwagoner – jump, NOW!

a long time fan
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injury’s happen if their replacements can’t do the job it is time to replace them. but Crawford is a starter and he alone has 8 errors this year

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a long time fan Errors are a poor indicator of defensive value. They’re frustrating, but implying that Crawford is anything less than a well above average defender at SS is nonsense based on his 8 errors alone. The Giants defense is hurt far more by Morse not being able to cover more than 20 feet in any direction.

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Teams have shallow talent in their minors when they are mostly playing playoff competitive ball.  That’s the way the draft works, the biggest and best talents are in the Top 5-10, and so if you are mediocre or good, you have much lower chances of drafting the talent you need in the minors.  That’s why the A’s had to sell off their best players about 5 years ago, they were competitive before and their minors dried up, and so he had to sell, sell, sell.  Most draft picks are busts at being significant contributors to the team, a good starter… Read more »
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When a team needs to call up Travis Ishikawa(?!?!??) then you know they are in trouble….

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paperback writer I concur regarding Bochy.   My research has found that he’s one of the rare managers who can win close games, his record in 1-run games is statistically significant shown to be be above .500, which sabermetrics says managers regress to a .500 mean, so he’s a rare bird.  Thus far in his career, he has averaged 4 games over .500 per season in 1-run games, so despite a near .500 career record, his managing has added four wins on average to the teams that he has managed. Not so good this season so far, minus 3, but… Read more »
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1) Buster Posey to first base

2) Try to win a game

3) Enjoy life more

Go Giants

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Thanks for mentioning John Bowker. That’s exactly who I was thinking about when I heard the Giants were bringing back Travis Ishikawa.

No need to make this personal.  I’m sure Travis Ishikawa is a nice person and a fine athlete but I was just so goddam happy to get rid of him the first time and now he’s back?  

The Giants are kaput, end of story.

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Whose next? Dan Runsler?

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The Giants have no minor league studs to offer in a trade, and no one to sell. they are between a rock and a hard place. 2 WS trophies in 3 years is nothing to sneeze at, and a lot of that success is due to Sabes. I refuse to bash him now. He is a great GM. The worst thing that could happen is another Beltran for Zach Wheeler trade. Don’t do it Sabean. We will keep watching adorable images of ball dudes and gamer babes eating garlic fries, and when ishakawa has a great BP session, they can… Read more »
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Actually, Pagan got hurt because he INSISTED he play when he had slight injuries, this led to his major injury.  Fact.

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Naw, Bochy’s kid, Brent.  LOL

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Might be in preparation for a trade involving Belt.  Buster plays first, Ishi Defensive back-up, Giants aquire…………………???

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Giants49ersLove  Saying Pagan killed us is a weird backhanded compliment. When he was healthy he was the sparkplug, and he made the entire lineup stronger. Glass half empty / half full conundrum.

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Comical.  Pagan has never played hurt.  In the dictionary under “setbacks” he has his photo there.  Too bad his heart is not as big as Hector Sanchez.

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Oh, I agree.  He can not be relied on ever again.  Just like Scuturo.  A bad back in baseball is the end.

paperback writer
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paperback writer

Guess you missed those games he DID play hurt.
Just say you don’t like the guy, you don’t have to make stuff up…….

Giants49ersLove
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We deserve to lose everytime Panda is batting clean-up.  Nobody fears our line-up anymore.

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The “We” is a dead givaway of bandwagon-itis – time to bail out.  LOL

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The thing that everyone is continuously focussing on is that the Giants (supposedly) do not have any prospects to trade.  That isn’t exactly true (they would just have to include more players for an A level Major Leaguer) but I understand  the frustration. Where everyone really needs to bring the pitchforks out, is the fact that Giants Ownership are extremely Rich, yet Extremely Cheap!  They are more concerned about opening a Garden that doesn’t feed anyone and takes up space…Or an exclusive Club in Right Field that costs $2500 per annum to be a member and $17 per beverage. If,… Read more »
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I got nothing!  LOL

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Giants Fan 27  “The owners do not want to spend money” … are you kidding ? Top 10 payroll, break the bank for Cain, Timmy, Posey, Pense … then they get Madbum at a great price … How many All Stars are they supposed to go out and sign to 9 figure contracts ?????  Yes, Scutaro is kind of a scrub, but they don’t win the WS in 2012 without him. The owners are committed to fielding a top team, the GM consistently makes great moves , the business/marketing side has created an amazing ballpark experience and “brand” …. You make… Read more »
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Slam Giants Fan 27 No not kidding, they prove it every single year!  You are confusing the signing of their own players to that of “legitimate” free agents. The owners are “committed” to fielding a competitive team.  Not a “Top team” as you suggest.  Again, this is factual based on their actions year after year. NO owner should have a Sports Franchise if they are only interested in making money!  It is ONLY about the Championships!  If you happen to earn $5 bucks after you get the ring, than good for them! They can afford to get ANYONE they want, period!… Read more »
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Slam Giants Fan 27 Slam is right, the Giants really do spend money, but often its the wrong money, and often I am not convinced that ownership is more concerned with investor profits and filling seats than winning.  The Giants have a ton of owners and investors keep happy and that can;t be easy, but to answer Stan’s question, its not about how many 9 figure All-Stars to sign, but rather when to let your own FA’s go. I get the feeling the ownership group loves the fact Lincecum is pitching two no hitters against the worst offensive team in MLB… Read more »
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Slam Giants Fan 27 Apparently Colvin was optioned, not released, but his .225 BA will be missed when compared to Juan Perez’ .156, or Travis Ishikawa’s .206 BA. Ha ha! if it weren’t so sad, it would be funny….

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@EricSlamGiants Fan 27 Actually Eric, you just agreed with me!  Giants ownership is one of the richest in all of Baseball.  They do not, however, spend to their capability.  The will on their own guys but not other Free Agents!  

This is why the Giants are in the predicament they are.  Yes, they need to do a better job on their minor league system…but again, i will use the Abreu White Sox $5M analogy  that speaks volumes to the cheapness.  What if we had Abreu now?  Exactly!

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Giants Fan 27 Slam Ha ha! I do agree with you for the most part… I just think its more an issue of poor spending based on priorities of selling merchandise and lining pockets, than actual “cheapness”. I think $150 mil payroll is more than adequate, but I would change the composition of the team by adding in more younger players under control financially, like the Cardinals do, and making tougher choices with their own FA’s. When the Giants do spend on outside players, its a ton of money on bad signings like Zito, Rowand, and most likely Morse coming up.… Read more »
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@Eric Giants Fan 27 Slam Yes, that is all very logical.  However, the minor league system (hitter wise) is so very broken that it would be difficult to do what you say ala, St. Louis.  Although keep in mind today (and when Belt returns) we did field a completely homegrown infield.  Pitcher included. St Louis (and others) do that out of necessity.  The Giants do not need too!    The difference is the Giants are Wealthy enough to sprinkle in the other (Legitimate) Free Agents they would need to round out the roster.   I have been to 22 of the 30… Read more »
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Giants Fan 27 Slam  1) Stop bemoaning the Barry Bonds business model, that was years ago, and they don’t get AT&T Park built without him. Don’t forget that. 2) How do you know the Giants owners are the wealthiest in baseball ? You don’t know that. 3) That Abreu story makes me sick. I didn’t know we were $5m away with “last look”. Brutal.

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Slam Giants Fan 27 1a) What Barry Bonds business model?  That made no sense.  Actually if there was a “Barry Bonds Business model” it was almost exactly what they do now.  Sign “Band-Aids” around their star player and hope for the best!  Wrong way to go!  AT&T gets built regardless of Bonds!  Why?  Because they used their own money and are RICH! Birns family, Johnson & McGowan, etal get that done…Which brings me to 2a)  How do you not know that the Giants are one of the wealthiest in Baseball?  Other than checking Forbes and other records out there on the… Read more »
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Slam Giants Fan 27  Did someone say “brand?”  I’ll save your brand!  Captain Torpedo to the rescue!!!

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Beaver Slam Giants Fan 27 I have zero idea what that is supposed to mean?

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One thing has become apparent, and that Giants cannot continue business as usual by re-signing their own free agents (homegrown or otherwise) to huge loyalty contracts. After watching the Mets game, and taking into account the whole season, it would be foolish to sign Sandoval and Morse to extensions. Morse is “awful” in the words of Marty Lurie, and Sandoval wants $90 mil for a guy who plays good D, but is offensively limited, and has no plate (sic) discipline. He is a joke this season as a switch hitter, and gets outs in big situations. If the Giants would… Read more »
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