Now that we’ve gone relatively positive (as much as possible, given that people love to complain about the subject matter), we’re going to trend the other direction a little in our last Radio Wars question of the week.
For those who haven’t been reading this site lately, we’ve been asking the readers one question per day about the Bay Area’s respective sports talk stations, and tomorrow we’re going to pick two of the commenters from these posts at random to win a 10-person Pizza Party from Amici’s East Coast Pizzeria. So when someone asks you what good it does to analyze (and complain about) sports talk radio, you can tell them that it’s all about that delicious thin crust pizza for you and your friends at the other side of the commenting rainbow.
Here were the first questions we asked:
Who’s your favorite host on KNBR?
Who’s your favorite host on 95.7 FM “The Game”?
Think you could be a better programmer than Lee Hammer or Jason Barrett?
So far we’ve received over 200 comments in all, and I expect that number to increase with the next question, which is…
What’s your biggest complaint about KNBR and 95.7 FM “The Game”?
OK, maybe I spoiled that with the headline. Let me explain where I’m going with this. First, with what I don’t want to see in the comments.
Individual hosts getting ripped
Even though I used a photo I took of a couple KNBR hosts at the top of the page, this post isn’t where you vent about how much you don’t approve of one person’s hosting ability.
There is plenty of “I hate this guy” or “this guy sucks” in the comments, and that’s fine … but for every person who hates a certain host there is a person who calls that same host their absolute favorite. If you don’t believe me, go check the comments from the three earlier contest posts. Sports talk radio tastes are as subjective as they come.
While I’ve written a lot about this stuff and not all of it has been flattering to certain individuals, I respect what these guys do. It takes several skills to be a good broadcaster and stay relevant when everyone is only as good as that day’s show. Talking sports in a bar is fun, but talking sports for a living can be a challenge — especially in a cutthroat business like terrestrial radio. So let’s leave the personal insults out of this when it comes to commenting on this specific post.
So what can you complain about?
- What teams/sports the stations focus on (too much or not enough)
- Certain segments you aren’t a fan of
- Which guests they interview
- Questions asked during interviews
- Bumper music
- Signal strength
- The callers — there’s a reason why @LOLKNBRCallers has gathered over 2,500 Twitter followers in less than a year
- Whatever else you can think of, as I’m sure I’m missing something
If you insult any specific host by name, your comment will not be considered eligible to win one of the Amici’s East Coast Pizzeria pizza parties for 10 people. I’m pretty sure we know by now which hosts people love or cannot stand (here’s a little hint: the hosts who receive the most hate on forums like this or in the form of emails sent to the respective stations are the ones the PDs like because they — say it with me now — MOVE THE NEEDLE).
Tomorrow Bay Area Stats Guy is going to break down how you guys voted in the polls from this week, so stay tuned for that. In the meantime, go ahead and vent about the stations you listen to for hours every week.















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Oh yeah, one more thing I truly hate: Just because its holiday season and all the hosts are off does not mean just hit play on old interviews and call it "The Best of." Find some intern to do live radio. There is nothing worse than turning on the radio to find yourself listening to an old interview from last week just because the host is out for the day. None of the host are good enough to have a "Best of" ...segment.
KNBR: - Drop Radnich, Byrnsieee, and Fitz (like that'll ever happen)...KNBR will instantly become better... - Replace Fitz and Brooks show with Damon Bruce. -Stop with all the commercials and jingles (*&%, if there's one way to get me to switch the station, that is it - Kars4Kids, Handlery Commercial guy with the creepy voice, SweetJack, hearing from the sexiest lineman on the field "woooo", and SO many others that I've tried to forget. 95.7 The Game -Just stop with all the gimmicks and jeapardy type segments. The need to incorporate a specific word into an interview?? Really?? WHY?? seems juvenile. -Stronger signal (you're supposed to be on FM, right?)
Gary Radnich and Larry Krueger that is all...
KNBR: For a station that likes to brag about their 50,000 watt flame thrower signal it pisses me off that because I live in Sacramento I'm not eligible to win their damn contests. I won Giants tickets one time and when they asked where I lived and I told them Sac, I was informed I wasnt eligible to win. WTF?
My biggest complaint about KNBR? How could a radio station hire two teenagers to host the 5:00am-9:00am time slot.
That zinger gets an Andrew Dice Clay "OH!"
KNBR does a few things that bother me however the one thing that I don't think I'll ever forgive them for is the firing of Ralph Barbieri. I know many had their gripes about The Razor's radio persona but I feel that what Tom and Ralph had on air was something special. There was a chemistry they had that was natural and allowed conversation to flow. Yes, they often strayed from genuine sports talk but there was nothing phony or contrived about their show. As far as The Game goes, I've stated already that I feel like The Game tries too hard to pull audience from KNBR. It's like they say in politics: if all you're doing is attacking the other guy's record, then you've got nothing to run on. Anybody remember the chimp commercials? What was that? It just reeked of playground type behavior. When it's all said and done, I think that there is better content on KNBR, despite its limited scope in terms of covered Bay Area teams.
KNBR firing Ralph really did bum me out, and when Tom went on the air and got a little choked up doing a tribute to Ralph; that was the greatest thing I've ever heard on the radio. But I think Ralph's health really was failing, and KNBR was justified letting him go.
KNBR-I get ALL of sports talk and news from RADIO and INTERNET only, I don't have a TV. Commercials- by the time I warm up the car drive two blocks, commercial galore. Slleep train- so annoying. Solar, with Kuip, Cars with Kruik Every host EXCEPT Gary plugs something! Even Marties on the ban wagon. When Ray Woodsen started selling things, I gave up. I am Garys demographic dream. I'm in my mid 30s, female, and hispanic! Loves me some Muph and Mac, but they are homersc, but not as bad as Kruik. Spelling? How do you even begin to spell Kruik and Kuip, I'm simply guessing. Kate Scott- finally a female who doesn't sound like she's swollowed testosterone pills. Her voice is great, she's a great accompanyment! Miss her, get well babe! Singnal-soooo happy we get knbr in sac, we DON'T get the game in sac. But when I go to Arco gas at Arden, my singnal cuts out. When I get my diet coke from McDs on Fair Oaks, my signal cuts and it sucks when there's an interview. Interviews- murrp n mac get good baseball interviews, love that Harbaugh is there once a week and sergio durning the season. Martie- I wish he could. Play more interviews even old, like radio documentaries that would be so sweet. Martie takes too many callers and let's them talk too long. When a caller says posey should be in left field, he needs to be hung up on. Fitz and Brooks- if you don't agree with them, you will pretty much get dissed. I love baseball, the As need a new stadium, and the Giants need to work with them period. Trust me, I won't stop seeing the giants to see the As, I prefer the NL in general. Prices- Giants, you are. Making it more and more difficult to watch a game. I can't sit in nose bleed, I actually like to watch and talk ball during a game, but your prices are killing me. KNBR can you host more events. Murph n mac I wannna see you at the public house!
KNBR will ALWAYS be the leader because of its signal strength. You can get it in San Diego, and Montana. You can't get the Game in Santa Cruz, or anywhere outside the immediate Bay Area. When you do get it, it makes you want to turn it off.
I'm a Giants fan and I get tired of all the homer stuff on KNBR, and yes too many commericals.
The Game -too many "bits' and segments(cannot stand "word of the day" . Should we scream real loud when we hear it like "Pee Wee's Playhouse"?") and they never outside of Roxie talk about college sports. KNBR-way too stale; same hosts, same formats. You think with competition they would try something different with hosts, new interview shows, etc. They seem to play it conservative since they have programming with the hotter baseball and football team in the area and the only hoops squad.
Ray Woodson has his own show. That in itself is the most ridiculous development in all of bay area radio. The update guy. .. Ray Woodson
Ray Woodson is outstanding in a classy, low key way. The Marco Scutaro of Sports Talk
Agreed. I actually thought Ray Woodson might be an interesting pair-up with Tolbert, because they're pretty different personalities and deliveries. As opposed to Tom & Byrnes, which is too much of The Dude Show all in one sitting ....
Ray Woodon is one the few good qualities about KNBR. Refreshing to hear an adult speak about the subject of sports.
The Drive - When they first went on the air making snarky comments about KNBR; I'm glad I don't hear those sound drops anymore; it was childish and amatuerish. KNBR - Too invested in Giants / 49ers ... they diss the Raiders, and act like the A's don't even exist
Ray Woodson is pretty good. He used to be boring when he would fill-in every once in a while, but ever since he's been doing Sportsphone more, he's gotten better. He can be entertaining and kind of funny at times. He has dry humor, but he normally has good shows overall, and as I've said, he can handle the crazy/drunk callers at night.
The most annoying thing is the Guy who does the West Cost Gear commercials. He is like some wanna be radio host. Not to mention the shirt designs are not that cool either.
yes that marketing strategy is failing miserably ... I wouldn't be caught dead wearing one of those shirts because that guy is trying so hard to be cool, he's ... NOT
I think KNBR should consider not taking the West Coast Gear guy's money. He sounds like he is either: 1) In way over his head or 2) Broadcasting his nervous breakdown. Whenever I hear his ads I just can't help but feel like things are not going to end well for him.
YES, that guy is really becoming annoying.
KNBR- What their problem has always been, they never talk about the A's or Raiders until it's playoff time, if even then. The Bay Area has probably the greatest collection of sports franchises in the country, why ignore two that have added seven world titles and colorful pasts to our sports tapestry. The Game- Signal strength is really lacking and they need to stop having their hosts from taking jabs at each other and always having to disagree. Just talk sports, share opinions, make it seem like you have enough insight to where you don't have to play devil's advocate all the time. It's too negative.
I don't have an issue with the negativity of the contrarian stuff, its more how obvious it is that they're say it just to say it. So many of their bits are manufactured, when their takes on things are manufactured, is even remotely better than what KNBR is doing?
LOLKNBR Callers allowed to talk way too long, seems the later in the day the show the longer they go. 7-10 is hard to listen to, but hilarious to read on twitter. Does not apply to Salty Balty, his rants are usually very entertaining
Bad callers are the currency of Sports talk, I LOVE listening to those idiots...also when people call in drunk I almost crash my car it's so funny. And I love Salty Balty; he hates EVERYTHING ... that's what sports talk radio is all about ... it's entertaining.
You guys probably like watching "Jackass" and "Hillbilly Hand Fishing" too, right? ;-)
I follow them. Hilarious.
Agreed. Most callers are boring at best. "I've been a [some team] fan for 200 years, and I think...". Nobody cares.
The Adam Meyers segment makes me cringe...invest your money in sports gambling rather than the stock market!? Awful. The Game is a bastard stepchild to KNBR, and always will be at this point. When you talent is cast offs, New York transplants, and such, it is to be expected. Sportsphone 680 is dead air now, and has never come close to recovering from the losses of Kreuger and Bruce, who both had me tuning in nightly around games. Larry K has added a good dose of HGH to Gary's show, although I miss some of the callers that are now banned for having too much air time. KNBR does a great job of 'guest hosts'...whether its Ted Robinson, Ray Ratto, Kevin Lynch. The Game's morning show is unlistenable, but Pauley Mack is about as bad as it gets...no more mock up songs please!
I'm from the "old" end of the age spectrum, and I LOVE Pauley Mac's songs ... funny stuff
Didn't read all the comments, but Ruthless got most of my complaints. Knbr: commercials. It's crazy. The Game: "theme" days. I kinda get the "Niners Monday" thing, I just don't get why you need to name it such. Just talk about both teams' games.
KNBR: Yeah, the commercials are maddening. So I will focus on Adam Meyer and any gambling segment (basically commercials they force upon us during regular programing hours). I immediately flip the station to ANYTHING else. It is pandering to the addicted gambler in the audience and that's a sad fact. I respect Gary so much for boycotting the segment. The Game: Their "biatch" commercial. I haven't heard this in awhile, and I thought they took it down, but I recently did hear it again. Talk about focusing on the lowest common denominator... One thing I really appreciate about the Game: Their new online streaming radio service. Very nice having the ability to pause and go forward and back. Well Done!
"One thing I really appreciate about the Game: Their new online streaming radio service. Very nice having the ability to pause and go forward and back." Actually, with the way the Game constantly repeats their own content, I thought the ability to go back was useless. Who needs it when you know you'll hear the same thing 20 minutes later?
Knbr and Gamez..no diversity in the San Francsico ( say that with a Spanish or even Tagalog accent) bay area. SO wrong..immoral. KNBR.yep,commercials. It hasn't got me to buy whats advertised..if anything,I change the channel and wont comeback. The GAMZ signal is bad..when its good,its much better then AM of course. Never yet got it in stereo. Makes me wonder how the previous country format had even one listener. But,I do get tired of angry middle aged white males view of sports and the idea ONLY THEY have expertise to talk about sports. If Bob Fitzgerald is so smart-why didn't he ever tell use the Warriors would stink for the last decade and a half that he's been here?
Simple: because Fitz knows where his paycheck is coming from.
KNBR - Too many commercials and a lot of homerism on the 49ers, Giants. They need to cut down on commercials(maybe have more breaks to cut down on it) and be more objective on the Giants and 49ers. Also they need to talk more Warriors, A's, and Raiders. As a big fan of the Dubs I would like more discussion heard about them. Although I'm not a A's/Raiders fan, hearing them doing some segments on them would nice to hear. The Game - Gimmicks are too much, they need to cut it down to 1-2 gimmicks for each host or just have it once a week('Pressure points' every Thursday and 'Rise Guys Report' every Friday for example) 'The Truth Machine' on the Wheelhouse is a good example since they do that every Friday. Also they have a weak signal. The Game should have an AM affiliate and/or move to a FM station that has a stronger signal.
KNBR= Commercials. Although I am a Giants fan, listening to most the shows suck the Giants off over and over again is getting old. Baseball as a whole is a beautiful sport and there are many other teams, but I think KNBR forgets that most of the time. The Game= They have gotten a bit better about this but it still warrants a comment. Don't talk about it be about it. Like Rex Ryan don't tell me every year you're going to win the Super Bowl, just do it. The Game talks about how much better they are than KNBR in commercials and shows and about what they do differently. They have a pretty decent product even though its in its infancy, you dont have to say just because you burst on the scene you're better than the company thats been around for a long time. You can be better without telling me.
Don't listen to The Game all that much because phone apps have enabled national radio listening where I steer toward Bruno and Rome with a little bit of Patrick, Papadakis, and Mayes. KNBR has a lack of talent, imagination, and caters to an older demographic. LIstening to different platforms across the country, KLAC 570 Los Angeles, 97.5 The Fanatic Philadelphia, Fox Sports Radio Sirius there are a lot of great young callers in their 20's or 30's. KNBR is like a fossil, like a newspaper, filled with boring callers that are 50+ talking nonsense and falling in line to the KNBR spin machine. Other than Bruce and Tolbert who has talent AND can relate to a younger audience? Other than Bruce and Tolbert the entire lineup should be either reconfigured (Byrnes, Murphy), paired with outside talent (Krueger, Radnich), or just let go (Fitz, Brooks, McCaffrey). Luckily for KNBR this older demographic does not stream sports talk radio on their smart phones. Younger people do and they do not listen. The commercials are another story. We all understand you need to pay the bills but someone in marketing needs to figure out a strategy for new revenues streams. It is excessive. The fanboy attitudes and the constant jock sniffing also need to be reigned in. We get it, you are the flagship. Do not underestimate the knowledgeable audience intelligence. No more Krukow. He should grab a skirt and some pom-poms and dance on the dugout when they shoot t-shirts into the crowd. And I do not think Paul McCaffrey has ever: 1) spoke during an interview 2) said anything that I did not already know 3) said anything that provoked thought. Just imagine KNBR without Tolbert, Bruce, and being the Giants flagship.
KNBR - as already mentioned, too many commercials. Also, way too may callers - amature radio is complete rubish. As a result of both points, I only listen to their interviews from the website. No live radio. Game - they should take a break from 100% sports and hit any other hot topic. Both - Kars 4 Kids - I immediately change the channel because I hate that tune.
KNBR is for sure commercials, seems to be on all the time. Hard to listen to on a 30 min commute. Interviewing skills as a whole. Some host are better than others, but all are bad. Stop with crazy long questions followed by answering your own question before you guest does. Simulcasting the Mr.T show is lame... The Game: Nobody that "Laced them up" in their lineup, Host relationships seem forced.
My core issue with both stations? Demographics 95.7's initial "gimmick" was entirely based upon the "Hey, look at us! We're not Old & Busted!"-idea. The station seemed to be making a move, a la SportsCenter, to a younger demo. KNBR was/is viewed as the station with a penchant for reminiscing, living out the glory days of years past, while mixing in a little current info, attempting to key in on the "older" audience. 95.7 had a chance, and claimed, to be a shifting change from that format.... Hilariously, 95.7 is EXACTLY like KNBR: Old white dudes, discussing the same old subjects. Mixing in a little Tribe called Quest as bumper music ain't fooling anyone. I would really like to see a younger host, preferably someone who won't be able to fall back the Niners/Giants/A's/Raiders of the 70's. Each station certainly has some great hosts, but I'd argue that there are 6-7 hours, per station, that could be done away with. It would be nice to see either station "grow a pair" and actually give some younger broadcasters a chance.
As far as the streamline issues with KNBR goes, download the iHeartRadio app. and/or go to the iHeartRadio website. I heard KNBR changed to them. It's too bad that KNBR isn't on the TuneInRadio website anymore. No offense to KNBR, but their site dowright sucks for streamlining. I don't think the streamlining works if you are their website from a computer, and it takes forever to streamline shows from the KNBR website from your phone, and they play ads. But yes, just go to iHeartRadio to streamline KNBR shows.
I think if you're going to say "their site dowright sucks for streamlining" you actually meant "Full offense to KNBR". It's okay -- their site *does* suck for streaming.
*downright
The Game - fading out as soon as you drive 30 miles in any direction. KNBR - having the same drive-time show on BOTH stations. I hate it on 680, I'm not about to listen to it on 1050!
hahaha. Yeah, I never understood that.... I think/guess part of it is because whenever the Razor and Mr. T show (now just the Mr. T show) conflicts with a Giants or a Warrior game, and I guess now a 49ers Monday Night game, they would just move the show to 1050 when they would go to Giants or 49ers pregame, which I guess they will be doing with the Warriors, now that all their games will be on 680, and not bumped to 1050 when it conflicts with the Mr. T show.
As far as female personalities go, both stations do have femal personalities. Kate Scott for KNBR and Giana Franco for 95.7. Yeah, I do see what you guys mean though, but I think both stations probably feel that male callers might try to hit on them, when Kate Scott is a lesbian and Giana Franco is married. But yeah, they should hire more women, but both stations probably feel that they will probably get hit on.
KNBR - The sound "drops" are stupid intrusive and boring . "Ye..." NO! Playing the big bad boss card, "Lee Hamm....". Stop It!" Game- All of the complaints listed about them on above threads are legit - and that's a LOT! Their endless chest-beating, self promotion and junior high mentality of the "regulars." Under-using their bench strength. Reaching constantly for the lowest common denominator in intelligence. Have not made one original hire from Bay Area, they are all Intercom vigilantes, Comcast talent, Sportbyline vets or KNBR rejects. Horrible signal When you can hear it, treble and echo are up like a 9th graders first stereo system- blasting in a shower stall. The "sound effects " from Radio Hell.
The Game needs to drop all the gimmicky names for every segment, They absolutely need a stronger signal. KNBR needs to cover more of the A's and Raiders. The amount of commercials are annoying. It would be nice if both stations would look into hiring a Female personality, that would be refreshing.